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Youre not getting it. The developers of the tools can and do impose their own additional limitations. They're still limitations of the programs which is what we were taking about.
And it doesn't matter what limitations Apple imposes in its walled garden, their phones can still be jail broken and side loaded in the more traditional way.
The concept of sideloading is a general term that applies to multiple platforms, not something Apple owns or gets to dictate. No one is making up anything here.
https://www.twingate.com/blog/glossary/side-loading
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/sideload
https://zimperium.com/glossary/sideloading
Etc.
If your argument requires cherry picking, ignoring key points, and baseless ad homenims, it's not a good point.
I said Apple allows sideloading, you tried to correct me, and then changed your argument when you realized you were wrong. It’s just you not getting it.
Your “tools” that bypass the limitations set by apple wouldn’t even be relevant if they were real since you’re arguing with the factual statement that Apple allows you to sideload your apps, regardless of where you are in the world.
P.S. Even your links prove that you’re wrong about sideloading. Unless you’re now trying to argue there’s nothing official about governmentally mandated Apple-certified App Stores, in which case… just walk
No, Apple doesn't generally allow you to sideload apps outside of the EU.
https://www.perplexity.ai/search/does-apple-officially-allow-si-TH8GECqoR4CqgzWD8uH6TQ (Note that Perplexity cites sources)
If Apple officially allows sideloading outside of the EU, please show us the specific pages where Apple states you can sideload any app and the steps to do it? If you're right, I'll happily spin on a dime and support you and admit my mea culpa. I have no horse in this race, and I'll be happy to learn something new. People think admitting they're wrong is a weakness, when it's actually a strength.
I didn't try to correct you because nothing you wrote was wrong. All I did was try to add information to clarify to other readers what "somewhat" actually means so they have an idea what they might be getting into if they wanted to do it. You know, provide simple helpful extra information, so people don't waste their time trying to find a feature they don't have if they live outside the EU for example. You even agreed that there are limitations, and that people would have to fork out money to overcome some of them.
But if someone correcting you seems to upset to the point where you come out swinging a baseball bat over a trivial matter, maybe the internet isn't the place for you just now.
I have no idea what you're referring to here. So being vague again weakens your argument.
You seem to be stuck on this idea of Apple setting limitations. I said from the start there were limitations.
The tools are very real:
Again, you didn't cite anything specific here in what I linked to. The definitions clearly supported that I wasn't making anything up as you claimed. And all you did was repeat your claim which I've already addressed. You didn't respond to my actual counterpoint or add any additional information. So again, this was vague and pointless.
Ok, this is getting ridiculous. You keep stating incorrect information, you're relying on cherry picking, you've stooped to using yet another ad hominin weakening you argument, and you're getting repetitive and vaguer with each new comment.
I've posted plenty of links to show the reality and limitations I originally mentioned, so people can read them and make up there own minds.
If sideloading wasn’t allowed, there would be no apps on the App Store If you read the links your AI provided you, you’d see they’re all confirming what I said. All of them.
Generally, common knowledge doesn’t need to be cited, so here:
https://developer.apple.com/support/compare-memberships/
https://developer.apple.com/support/dma-and-apps-in-the-eu/
https://developer.apple.com/documentation/devicemanagement/
Also, you should probably learn what Ad Homenim is before trying to use it in a sentence https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
The fact is, and will always be, that Apple allows sideloading on all iphones in all regions, and their limits apply even in the EU. I’m sorry if you feel like that’s a personal attack.
And to finally, to address your attempt at changing subject (because you stopped being vague and finally admitted it), Jailbreaking is not within Apples rules (the hint is in the name). Hope this helps!