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Woudn't it be smarter to just leave the hellhole that is Texas? Either to the north or to the south, leaving is a win.
Sometimes there's family or other things you just can't take with you. Support structures you might not have somewhere else. Friends and neighbors. Mutual aid.
There can be circumstances that override that. But honestly, the more that flee. The easier it is to get what the fascists want. And at best you're only helping yourself short term. Because no matter where you go. They will come for you if they can.
And even there. There's no guarantee. Going to Europe where fascists in Russia, Hungary, etc loom? Maybe you'll be safe a little longer somewhere on the Asian continent with the currently slower rolling fascist forces there. But it's only temporary. You can't ultimately escape.
The question is. Where well the breaking point be for most people. What event will cause the public to drag these fuckers from their homes and hold them responsible. Because that's what it's going to take. For them to remember that they rely on us. Not only for their wealth. But continued existence. Only when that fear has been driven into them, will things even start to get better.
And it might surprise us. It may just be a red state that does it. One of these Republican sycophants getting dragged from a town hall. Assaulted by a whole community for their rolls in making things worse for everyone. Police are going to have a hard time locking up a whole town. And these elected ghouls that love to ignore their constituents will reel in terror. To be clear, violence isn't the answer. Fear is. The fear of knowing we far outnumber them. That they could be subject to violent accountability at any moment. Dragged from their safe beds even.
Violence is the answer for authoritarians. But it never lasts. Because it's just a tool. The answer is respect, justice, and consent.
Without them you end up in inane cycles of violence like we have now.
People fleeing fascism are just hoping other people will be forced to fight it and win before it gets to them. No matter what happens, eventually some people will have to stand and fight it. There is nothing wrong with deciding that the time to stand and fight it has come. It is scary, yes. It has been a long time since we have had to fight fascism. We might feel like we have forgotten how. But we will learn quickly. The same technology that enables them also enables us in ways just as profound, maybe more profound. Vive la resistance!
Fair enough. In that case I wish you a very successful revolt, that you or those aligned with it hunt down and eliminate the fascists so they can't come for you never, nowhere.
If they're coming no matter where Id recommend anyplace that lets you keep a firearm and to stay away from anywhere that doesn't. Unless anyone's come up with a better way to stop fascists in the past 80 years, there's really only one solution. If you don't want to be part of the solution then you may as well stay right where you are and hope someone else does it for you.
Firearms are a double edged sword. Maybe they help, maybe they hurt. But when society turns against you, and no place is safe for you. All the guns in the world even in the face of an unarmed populace won't save you.
I was fruitful and multiplied, its hard to organize a large migration of people, some of whom want to stay.
I will travel, but am rather tied to this area, even if I do not see it changing for the better in my lifetime
Rather than encourage people to leave, we should encourage more enlightened people to move there, and change the political climate. A lot of states are closer to flipping than people think, and Texas is one of them.
So far their efforts in various forms of voter suppression have prevented that, and at the same time more people equals more congressional seats.
You want to put those "more enlightened people" at risk of being Gestapo'd or killed? We need them where they can actually do a net positive effect!
First clean up the shit in Texas (or any other fascist shithole) and make it livable, then live there.
Are you really so naive that you believe that a VPN subscription is more difficult or a higher bar than actually getting up and moving?
Potentially meaning you need to find new jobs, new friends, new support structures....etc
Sure would be nice to be privileged enough to be able to relocate myself and my family.
Idk about the person you are replying to but I have spent 15 years trying to get out of the state that I am in. It’s really hard to move out of low cost of living areas to higher ones without a job and a lot of planning.
Your answer seems so out of touch with reality. It feels equivalent to suggesting a depressed person to simply don't be sad.
Moving out to a different state is not easy, either because of family, job, money, studies, life or any other situation.
I don't think that comparison is as unequivocal as you seem to think. Sure, I bet it's more likely than not that the average person has any of those attachments, but some people don't. Maybe their job is a dead end, their family is abusive or toxic, their money is a sunk cost, their studies are related to a futile program, and they just need someone to put a bug in their head.
I was abused, manipulated, homeless, with 30k stuck in a scam and not a penny to my name, trying to get into triangle tech. I had every reason to stay. But my closest friend told me to run the fuck away and never look back - I had never considered it. Best advice I ever got and it saved my life. And triangle tech was just another scam.
You never know ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Doing what's right doesn't always mean doing what's easy.
It's not always easy to just pick up and leave somewhere. Especially somewhere as big as Texas.
It sometimes isn't possible, e.g. work or family