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Elon Musk's Neuralink implants brain tech in human patient for the first time (www.cnbc.com)

submitted 9 months ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

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[–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 42 points 9 months ago (2 children)

My car isn't even getting updates anymore and it's fewer than ten years old. I'll never put tech in my body until it's legally required to be supported, and also open source so I can support it

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

With neural implants open source is not the main issue. Sure, it's nice, but it's not like I'm gonna do a brain surgery because I did RTFM.

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

There are pacemakers with bugs shocking hearts incorrectly and companies can't help. They're bust or don't have the copyright to the code or just won't help - buy our new product next year.

It's not difficult to imagine malicious brain implants when the users are not in control. Being open source, or rather "free software", is equally a main issue.

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

There are pacemakers with bugs shocking hearts incorrectly, and companies can't help.

Do you have a source for that? I work with these pacemaker companies fairly frequently, and I'm not aware of this, and a quick search didn't turn up anything.

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Karen Sandler of the Software Freedom Conservancy has a "pacemaker defibrillator" for her large heart, and has done a few talks about it. I just read that a defibrillator is not usually included as part of "pacemaker" so I may have misspoke.

Original talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XDTQLa3NjE

Follow-up talk 6 years later: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2FNqXhr4c8

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[–] tabular@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

The tldr is some portion of pregnant women get a condition which makes their heart look like it needs to be shocked by the pacemakers defibrillator. This has not been accounted for in part because most women who get pacemakers defibrillator are elderly and so won't get pregnant. Besides that, testing devices on pregnant people isn't a thing (for good reason).

[–] MartianSands@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 months ago

Perhaps not, but it would make it far easier for any sympathetic brain surgeon you managed to find who was willing to try and fix the problem for you.

The key thing is not needing that specific company to help, but needing generic expert assistance is fine

[–] ChrisLicht@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I wonder if companies should be forced to provide a product’s core tech diagrams, material science, and major code base revisions to a kind of escrow, which is then released when the product is sunsetted.

[–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

That would be ideal. If you're not going to support it anymore, then you shouldn't be allowed to keep the knowledge of it locked up.