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[–] Jramskov@feddit.dk 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

As is mentioned in the article πŸ˜‰ What is also mentioned is the fact that battery prices are going down. Soon it seems they’ll be down to $10/kWh!

[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

There's also alot of new battery tech on the way.

There will be a market for batteries at home, and they will exist with the best suitable tech for it - and it's probably not lithium.

How many years, I dont know. What will it be, and who will do it, no clue. Otherwise my stock portfolio would look better if I knew these things haha.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I wish the second-hand battery market were more lively. Using half-worn car battery packs seems optimal for home use.

[–] Usernameblankface@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It is. Some of them are getting snapped up to help with powering factories.

I think this is car companies using the incoming battery packs from replacing worn out packs. Time to look it up...

https://www.autoblog.com/news/toyota-just-found-a-clever-new-use-for-old-ev-batteries

This is the article I was thinking of. It's more of an idea than a common use case to use old packs to help power factories.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Using half-worn car battery packs seems optimal for home use.

I'm not putting cobalt based (NMC or NCA) batteries bolted to the inside my house. Thats nearly exclusively what car battery packs are. Thermal runaway is too great a risk to bolt that much energy to a wall in the house. I am comfortable with LFP in the house though.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sodium batteries?

BTW that's the wish for trend line, $10/kWh right?

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have seen some wild priced on Ali, in your link the 75Ah and the 210Ah are priced the same, so I guess it's for the smaller one, 30€ for ~0.225kWh or 133€/kWh.

Could be wrong ofc, but it sort of fits what I thought it would roughly be.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean even ~133/kWh..

Whats an average, perhaps even gratuitous, level of consumption per household? 24kwh if you are running a clothes drier and an AC nonstop? Lets go nuts, say you are a DIY enthusiast and hosting your own servers, so 36kwh daily.

3192€-4788€ to be and you can be effectively energy independent with a small solar system.

Triple that and you are truly energy independent are any where south of the English channel. I mean obviously its money out of pocket, but its a fixed cost that you pay now, instead of a variable cost that continuously goes up. It just seems basic.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

Sure, but at 16€/kWh well that's a whole other ballpark. Buy one 36kWh for < 600€, put it in your car, charge at work πŸ˜‹ style of different.