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[–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I can explain. Cloudflare does not block VPNs, some website owners choose to block VPNs using Cloudflare services.

Cloudflare itself is very open to VPNs, like you can use their free services to proxy your VPN over their network bypassing country providers blocking. You'll have to pay a lot for such service in Amazon or Azure.

So their business model is that poor people can receive cool services for free providing marketing for their business clients to pay for even better services. And they do provide cool services for free and even better services for reasonable payments.

Closed web means Google, Amazon and Azure own their business and the web. They don't want that neither in business sense nor in moral sense.

Edit. I'd like to emphasise that Cloudflare is the only CDN that provides their basic services for free to common people, making the web available to common people, making the web more free.

I've seen a couple of threads here where people shit on Cloudflare(including this one). They are stupid, don't know how the web works and are out of their minds.

[–] planish@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Cloudflare wants the web to be made of web pages. But they also have an interest in the web being at least slightly dangerous (so there's an incentive to buy their protection services), and at least somewhat hard to make work well when served from a potato (so there's an incentive to use their CDN to shave off those milliseconds of latency). And, as a large provider of excellent and often free services, they end up as an administrative single point of failure and thus a potential point of control. It's a lot easier to wiretap one Cloudflare DoH resolver than thousands of ISP routers across dozens of ISPs, for example.

None of this is because Cloudflare is somehow Bad People; they're powerful and thus dangerous, but not, as far as I can tell, evil. The worst thing about them seems to be that they'd prefer to stay out of content moderation completely rather than try to find and boot all the Nazis, which looks like it might be an incorrect position that is possible to support with arguments.

[–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

they'd prefer to stay out of content moderation completely rather than try to find and boot all the Nazis

With how loose this word(and others) is used nowadays by people from Israel, USA, Russia, Africa and maybe other countries I prefer Cloudflare to stay that way.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They are the equivalent of the Dune universe's Spacing Guild.

[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

They who control the MLP fanfic, controls the webiverse.