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[–] SnoringEarthworm@sh.itjust.works 26 points 6 days ago (2 children)

"We show that by exploiting the physics of specular reflection, an adversary can inject phantom obstacles or erase real ones using only inexpensive mirrors," the researchers wrote in a paper submitted to the journal Computers & Security.

"Experiments on a full AV platform, with commercial-grade LIDAR and the Autoware stack, demonstrate that these are practical threats capable of triggering critical safety failures, such as abrupt emergency braking and failure to yield."

I'd be fooled, too, at first - and suspicious (who's fucking around with mirrors on the road?) - but I'd probably figure it out after a second.

My main concern is people could use these kinds of exploits to "jailbreak" robo-cars (or whatever we're calling them) to behave in dangerous ways in real traffic.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Oh okay, I have not factored in the idiots 😒

[–] Blackfeathr@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (2 children)

We must, unfortunately, factor in the idiots. They're quite pervasive.

[–] okwhateverdude@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

They’re quite pervasive.

🫲 Gestures broadly around at everything 🫴

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That'd need a new driving-license. With stricter checks. Not if applicants could memorize basic stuff but their emotional and intellectual maturity.

[–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It is pretty disturbing that 99% of people driving havent been assessed in 10 years or more beyond “do you know what this yellow triangle is? Do you know what this red octagon is? Do you have at least one functioning eyeball?”

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago

Very true... But at least we do test it at all. Anyone is allowed to have tons of kids and offer them no live or makes them fat or....

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Isn't there an old engineering adage that anyone that tries to design something to be idiot proof generally severely underestimates the resourcefulness of idiots?

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 days ago

Something about that yes. Never underestimate the ingenuity of an idiot 🫤

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Yeah there’s always someone. Now that the door is open for these stunts we’ll see them in real life, including ones that full humans. It is critical to figure these out before we rely on the technology, because people are assholes.

I’ve been saying for years that traffic will get much worse when we get to mostly self-driving cars. Many of the holdouts will decide they can act dangerously on the road because the self driving cars will get out of their way.