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[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

…which will happen right after the sun explodes.

Instead, we could not accept political ideology and instead start cooperating and understanding based on things we can agree on.

If people agreed that the majority of profit produced by labor should benefit labor its not important what other political ideologies they have.

If the majority started striking until profit goes back to those producing it, this all would be over in a month.

But if they wear a shirt each, dividing them into their political camp, they wont cooperate.

Can you see how this is a tool to keep us from taking our fair share?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I understand that your heart is in the right place, but this is woefully naive.

  1. Convincing someone right wing to come to the left is to convince the right wing that the majority of profit should benefit labor. If the right believed that they deserved the products of their labor, they would be left.

  2. Shaking hands with racists, sexists, homophobes, bigots, transphobes, etc. Is regressive and puts minority groups in danger.

The right does not see that they are victims of Capitalists. The left, does. Thus, the left need to bring the right to the left.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

People have called me naive since I was very young, often getting enraged when I turned out to be right, which was often the case.

Agreeing on small things is what breaks the dams. You dont need to believe me, just try to live healthier, be more productive, etc. It doesnt work like that. Small changes lead to the big outcomes.

You might be shaking hands with child molesters, murderers and other scum in every group you’re in. That argument is defeatist. You‘d need to scan every person for every detail so you dont have to worry about their ideology being the wrong one.

I‘d say its your opinions that are a little short sighted tbh.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Buddy, right-wing is defined by supporting Capitalism, along with upholding racial, gender, and sexuality hierarchies.

The only way the right would work with the left to liberate themselves from Capitalism, racism, sexism, homophobia, and transphobia, is if the right became left.

You aren't making a profound statement, everyone agrees that the Proletariat should work together. However, in order to do so, the right must learn and become left.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Its the third time you‘re saying the same stuff. I suppose we must agree to disagree here. You go educate the cat to become a dog. I‘ll teach them to behave different. Good luck. :)

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

People aren't born right wing, that's absurd. You're pretending that supporting Capitalism is genetic.

You aren't teaching people how to behave differently, if you're trying to convince the right that they deserve the value of their own labor, then you're convincing them to be left! There's no such thing as an anticapitalist right winger.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I‘m saying the difference in ideology is more profound. Taking my arguments literally doesnt make you correct. Good bye

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You're saying the right wing should join the left in being left wing, but denying that you're doing that.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 1 points 9 months ago

You cant leave it be, can you? Blocked.