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The message here is: "don't believe when people start screaming that the EU is a fascist organisation that wants to subjugate the population".
Because there was A LOT of that online when Chat Control reared its head.
The difference between a fascist government and a democratic government can be distressingly thin, something we should all be aware of by now.
In this case, the EU has just proven it is currently on the right side of that divide. When extremely unpopular and authoritarian ideas were considered, the public felt able to voice their disapproval and the government felt they had to listen. That is a crucial step. Good for you all.
Sadly it likely will continue to require major work to keep the public on guard against future attempts like this one, but that’s life.
That's the same EU that mandates online de-anonymisation, punishable with up to a year in prison, as a last minute amendment to an unrelated CSAM-directive.
Some press releases: (1), (2), (3)
Have you read the sources you posted?
Nobody is mandating anything - yet.
Sure, it might end up like that, but - to date - the Commission has been rather sensible when it comes to such things. They also have the example of UK that shows that the law works against its intentions by driving people towards unregulated and more dangerous websites.
We'll see how it goes.
That's simply how any EU directive works: EU decides what must happen, and it's up to the individual countries to put it into their respective laws.
That way people get angry at their federal government instead. Who can point their finger higher up. Who can then point to the countries specific implementation in their turn. It's a neat trick. Nobody's responsible for anything.
When has that ever stopped a puritan?
Wow, it's so weird that the article you linked lied, then!
No, it's saying that exact thing: online users of porn must be deanonymised on penalty of prison. To stop child abuse because that's related somehow?
It's just that the countries themselves must choose the particulates: who will do the deanonymisation, in what way, what will enforcement look like, etc.
That's what they mean with "the final shape of the law hasn't been determined yet".
Every EU directive works that way: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directive_(European_Union)
In this case: the de-anonymisation must happen. Up to the respective countries to do the dirty work.
When people, rightfully, get angry the local politician will say "we had to because EU". And the EU will say "well we didn't say it had to be in that way, it's your local politician that did that."
Are you reading your own sources...?
Considering (another quote from your own sources):
They might as well look at the UK, and go "OK, lets have the user click that they pinky promise they're 18".
I have: here's the relevant paragraph from the directive:
Pinky promise is explicitely not allowed.
And you're doing the exact thing: blaming the specific implementation 🙂 It's so sad that that still tricks people. Is this your first time learning how a EU directive works?
Tell you what: let's wait the 5-10 years of consultations and see what they end up doing, then let's come back to this discussion.
Boiling the frog 👍
That's basically the definition of democracy.
"Democracy is a horrible system, but nobody has invented anything better yet". Can't remember who said it. Churchill, maybe?