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[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Surplus value cannot be extracted from technology? I guess if you mean directly.

Every technological advancement has been used to to create more value that workers produce that gets stolen by the owner class, so through the transitive property, 100% percent of the value created by technology is stolen from the people actually using the technology to produce the value.

We've had insane technology breakthroughs that have made the value we produce skyrocket, and we're in the negative, by a shit ton.

Also those data centers would be classified under "means of production" and in an actual socialistic or communistic economy would be under the control of the people and would then produce value for us.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

it can only make workers more efficient cost for cost.

i literally said this.

[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Edited that comment while you were reading.

Yeah I know that, but you also said this:

surplus value can't be extracted from technology, it can only make workers more efficient cost for cost.

we don't own the datacenters, therefore it won't ever be making value to us.

Nuance is important.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

i don't get what you trying to say

[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

I was so descriptive that I doubled back on all of my points. Whatever you're not picking up is 1000% on you.