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[โ€“] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 27 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Imperialism is when you have a civil war.

Liberals always think "imperialism" is when you say things about places you don't directly rule. I am begging you to learn about unequal exchange and foreign interference. Imperialism is a process of incredible violence where labor and resources are extracted, finished products are sold back at a high price, and governments who resist are interfered with. Imperialism is enforced by organizations such as the IMF, CIA, and US Military.

If China were like American imperialists, Taiwan would have been reduced to rubble long ago. A better example of imperialism would be the attempt America has been discussing to steal Taiwan's semiconductor manufacturing industry.

[โ€“] Doubledee@hexbear.net 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You don't understand, western nations helped defend one side of the civil war and propped them up as part of a global ideological conflict they wanted to engage in with countries on the other side of the globe from them. Not agreeing to allow their proxy to act with impunity is textbook imperialism.

[โ€“] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 24 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

smuglord Imperialism is actually when you are the victim of imperialism, checkmate tankies. The real imperialists are the country that avoid projecting power outside their own border and hasn't gone to war since the 80s, not the one with hundred of military bases around the world that they use to violently enforce their global hegemony.

[โ€“] Lemvi@lemmy.sdf.org -3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I am not defending US imperialism, just criticizing a double standard.

Imperialism is a state seeking to maintain and/or extend power over other states. That is exactly what China is doing with Taiwan. Of course, unequal exchange is also a form of imperialism.

Imperialism is when you have a civil war.

That's just wrong. What is true though is that civil wars more often than not are influenced by foreign powers trying to influence them to their own benefit.

[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 days ago

All states influence other states. The point they brought up about "civil wars being imperialism" was said sarcastically.

Imperialism is where one nation financially dominates and plunders another. Conflict, bombing, coups, etc can all aid in this, but the fundemental baseline requires there to be plunder, not just influence.

Here's a decent article explaining imperialism.