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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The problem isn't democracy, it's democracy under capitalism, and the idea that we can actually transition to socialism via electoralist means.

[–] PearOfJudes@lemmy.ml 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

But its about working with the system we have. We can always advocate for the system being not broken, but intentionally taking advantage of minorities and increasing wealth for the rich whilst doing the opposite for the poor.

Even though I agree that any democracy in the west isn't truly democratic, with outright bribery in the form of lobbyist, and a two party duopoly. Even though I acknowledge this, everyone must vote for the less bad party, whilst also spreading the word for what they would truly want.

Even if the system is inevitably going downhill, slowing it down and pushing every means, through voting for the less evil option, and protesting, spreading word about socialism is the best option.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

No, the best option is to organize directly and agitate against the system. This historically has protected marginalized groups far better, it's how the Civil Rights movement passed. Simply "spreading the word" about socialism does absolutely nothing about the existing levers of power we can and cannot pull, we must do so in the context of broader organizing.