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Armed police swarm student after AI mistakes bag of Doritos for a weapon (www.dexerto.com)

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[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Our gun culture literally has a Wikipedia page, I'm pretty sure it's a thing. You also don't get to pick and choose only the "good" parts of it to include, it simply doesn't work like that. Your YouTube videos are stupidly anecdotal and I can find just as many of people being irresponsible with guns and having fun with them with the boys at the range (it's not only being stupid with them that's a problem, but treating them like some kind of bonding experience).

In any case, here are some actual academic papers that show through data that there is a clear and pervasive link.

Findings suggest most school shooters come from a social setting in which firearms are a crucial leisure activity and hold meanings of affection, friendship, and bonding. https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0322195

I really want to stress the affection, friendship and bonding parts. Guns aren't a problem but once you start building your whole personality around it and feeding that kind of environment to your kids, it becomes problematic.

More permissive firearm laws and higher rates of gun ownership were associated with higher rates of both school shootings and active school shootings after controlling for critical covariates.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9017402/

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago

You can find videos of archers having fun at a range, why does that not cause school archings? You can find videos of drunk ass axe throwers having fun at axe throwing places, does axe culture inspire school axings? Fun doesn't cause crime, the crime is caused by deep socioeconomic issues that can't be solved by stopping fun. And fun != irresponsible without your painting it as "fun causes school shootings" especially when you differentiate it from stupidity yourself.

Your study doesn't actually account for the fact that most school shooters, being unable to legally purchase firearms, steal them from their parents, and therefore it's more likely by default that their parents are "gun culture" people by virtue of owning guns. That still doesn't mean their kids stealing their guns to commit murder is "gun culture." Causation != correlation and such.

Your second study basically says "the more guns around the higher likelihood someone can steal one." Sure, but places with more permissive alcohol laws also have more drunk drivers, should we ban alcohol?