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Never said more secure
it was kinda on topic. also i dont get how people buy a phone thats half their mortgage payment.
People spend multiple monthly salaries to buy a car that they’ll use less than their phone
good for them. doesn't excuse why phones cost so much
They make a significant margin on them, but note that material cost isn’t the only cost involved. Development and R&D should be included in the price. Same goes for taxes, and different spendings like renting the workspace..
If your cheap phone is made by underpaid workers in China, then you have a part of the answer. Those cheap phones sell your data to make their margin. Some others charge you premium because they’re good and they know it. Obviously they’re making good profit on them, but I wouldn’t say it’s "so much"
you don't think apple doesn't data mine? lol. iphones are overpriced fashion statements. sure they work fine and have good performance but there's no difference in privacy and security between iOS and Android.
Uneducated answer
Proofs? Their privacy policy, the fact that Google is an advertising company, the fact that the "data sharing" of iOS gets leaked regularly and they’re never sold basically
They collect data, but they either use it for recommendations if you’ve enabled (or rather not disabled) that, else they use it for insight and telemetry to get anonymous or pseudonymous with limited lifespan usage data
Obviously, anything non E2EE going to USA servers can be considered compromised and in this context, yea, it’s bad, but it’s not all of it and Google phones a lot more data home
let me ask you something simple. Do you trust apple with your data more than you trust google?
Depends what you mean by trust
If you mean trust that they won’t sell, then yes
If you purely mean security, then Google is better imo
But my beliefs aren’t just based on my preferences. I hate both.
To follow up, on your responses for me both boxes check off equally but not so much as selling as to who they give that information to. You have to setup so much shit and make sure your hardware is air tight to have true privacy. I bet every device you use all of them no matter who you buy it from or what OS it runs, will have a backdoor. It's futile to do all that work when you think using Tor or I2P or whatever protocol you use for network traffic and not use cellular and disable GPS and use only use secure comms when everything has a backdoor.