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[–] SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 68 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (8 children)

(Mass dislikes time!)

Yes, the US does evil shit in the Middle East. Killing brown-skinned practitioners of the other Abrahamic religion overseas is an American tradition.

That still doesn't change the fact that China is persecuting Uyghurs in the Xinjiang province.

You can't shit-talk one authoritarian state and cheer on another.

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 31 points 2 months ago (9 children)

You can't shit-talk one authoritarian state and cheer on another.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

.ml simps so fucking hard for authoritarians in Russia and China?

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

To liberals, "simping so fucking hard" literally just means, "not believing literally every piece of propaganda that right wing western propaganda outlets pump out about them.

If they were old enough to be paying attention in 2002, they would be accusing anyone who didn't believe Iraq had WMDs of "simping so fucking hard" for Saddam.

[–] Oppopity@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You don't believe there are WMD? What are you some authoritarian simping tankie?

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago

🤣 Their jabs are so far off the mark, but every time they think they’ve hit the bullseye. If they could see our fremdschämen faces…

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[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 26 points 2 months ago

That still doesn't change the fact that China is persecuting Uyghurs in the Xinjiang province.

But it's not a fact though? You can't imagine up some fictional scenario and then just claim it's a fact; words have meanings

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

If not reeducation, which method would you prefer China use to combat the foreign radical Wahhabism and terrorism spread by the CIA in Xinjiang for the purpose of regional destabilization and regime change?

We all know how the US chose to implement its own war on terror. Muslim majority countries in the Middle East support China's method.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 31 points 2 months ago

Vocational training and extraordinary rendition & torture at a black site are exactly the same. You fool. You absolute baffoon.

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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That still doesn’t change the fact that China is persecuting Uyghurs in the Xinjiang province.

Previously:

The US tried to foment division in China by funding and organizing Salafi terrorist into Xinjiang, and once its efforts failed, it made lemonade out of its lemon by concocting and promoting a genocide narrative.

The only countries pushing this narrative are the “always the same mapimperial core countries, which just so happen to be largely the same ones supporting Israel’s genocide.

Almost no predominantly-Muslim country buys the Uyghur genocide narrative, because they know it’s bullshit, because they talked to the Uyghurs themselves.
https://twitter.com/un_hrc/status/1578003299827171330 #HRC51 | Draft resolution A/HRC/51/L.6 on holding a debate on the situation of human rights in the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region of #China, was REJECTED.

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The US tried to foment division in China by funding and organizing Salafi terrorist into Xinjiang, and once its efforts failed, it made lemonade out of its lemon by concocting and promoting a genocide narrative.

Much like how after China foiled their color revolution attempt in 1989, the CIA had to pivot to the "Tinyman Square Massacre" narrative.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 months ago

Very much like that, and they’re still getting mileage out of it with no effort, because Lemmitors get an endorphin rush every time they do the CIA’s work for free, the brave defenders of freedom & democracy that they are 🤦‍♂️

[–] tyler@programming.dev 4 points 2 months ago (17 children)

Sources:

  • china news propaganda site
  • medium article from rando
  • project syndicate link which is an op-ed site (not news)
  • a wiki page from an incredibly biased group
  • a youtube link...
  • a site calling itself a news site, yet no actual credentials, but seems to be associated with China (Ajit Singh has written Chinese propaganda books)
  • a substack link

This has to be the least compelling list of evidence one could provide, and yet you get upvotes because it looks like you've provided proof of something. All you've done is provide a lot of incredibly, seriously biased opinions with no actual facts at all.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago (20 children)

As opposed to all those unbiased sources you've provided, lol.

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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 months ago (8 children)

Wow, I wonder why there aren’t any Western corporate media sources with a Media Bias/Fact Check seal of approval…

Previously:

The first step is to understand the media, which Media Bias/Fact Check and the Ad Fontes Media* are never going to teach you. The only people who are taught it are those who get degrees in marketing, public relations, political science, history, and journalism; and even then only some of them.

The new post-Trump/“post-truth” media literacy curricula won’t teach it to you either, because it was paid for and crafted by the US military-industrial complex: New Media Literacy Standards Aim to Combat ‘Truth Decay’.

This week, the RAND Corporation released a new set of media literacy standards designed to support schools in this task.

The standards are part of RAND’s ongoing project on “truth decay”: a phenomenon that RAND researchers describe as “the diminishing role that facts, data, and analysis play in our political and civic discourse.”

None of it is a secret, though, and it can be learned.


* I’ve criticized MBFC & Ad Fontes before:

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[–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Would you prefer something from America's own fox news or New York Times?

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[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago

this post isn't cheering on china, it's shitting on the west's hypocrisy.

also you might want to look up who funded the wahabis who groomed the terrorists that the crackdown is a response to.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

"Yes, the US does evil shit in the Middle East. Killing brown-skinned practitioners of the other Abrahamic religion overseas is an American tradition.

That still doesn't change the fact that Iraq is building weapons of mass destruction to attack the USA.

You can’t shit-talk one authoritarian state and cheer on another."

Seriously, how many times do you need to hear it before you western chauvanists realise it's not about "good or bad", it's about trustworthy or untrustworthy.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago

Ironically Abrahamic religion’s influence feeds into liberalism’s good vs. evil worldview.

Philosophy professor Hans-Georg Moeller: If Morality Exists Everything Is Permitted

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