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[–] SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 68 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (9 children)

(Mass dislikes time!)

Yes, the US does evil shit in the Middle East. Killing brown-skinned practitioners of the other Abrahamic religion overseas is an American tradition.

That still doesn't change the fact that China is persecuting Uyghurs in the Xinjiang province.

You can't shit-talk one authoritarian state and cheer on another.

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 31 points 2 months ago (12 children)

You can't shit-talk one authoritarian state and cheer on another.

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[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 26 points 2 months ago

That still doesn't change the fact that China is persecuting Uyghurs in the Xinjiang province.

But it's not a fact though? You can't imagine up some fictional scenario and then just claim it's a fact; words have meanings

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

If not reeducation, which method would you prefer China use to combat the foreign radical Wahhabism and terrorism spread by the CIA in Xinjiang for the purpose of regional destabilization and regime change?

We all know how the US chose to implement its own war on terror. Muslim majority countries in the Middle East support China's method.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 31 points 2 months ago

Vocational training and extraordinary rendition & torture at a black site are exactly the same. You fool. You absolute baffoon.

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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 months ago (50 children)

That still doesn’t change the fact that China is persecuting Uyghurs in the Xinjiang province.

Previously:

The US tried to foment division in China by funding and organizing Salafi terrorist into Xinjiang, and once its efforts failed, it made lemonade out of its lemon by concocting and promoting a genocide narrative.

The only countries pushing this narrative are the “always the same mapimperial core countries, which just so happen to be largely the same ones supporting Israel’s genocide.

Almost no predominantly-Muslim country buys the Uyghur genocide narrative, because they know it’s bullshit, because they talked to the Uyghurs themselves.
https://twitter.com/un_hrc/status/1578003299827171330 #HRC51 | Draft resolution A/HRC/51/L.6 on holding a debate on the situation of human rights in the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region of #China, was REJECTED.

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The US tried to foment division in China by funding and organizing Salafi terrorist into Xinjiang, and once its efforts failed, it made lemonade out of its lemon by concocting and promoting a genocide narrative.

Much like how after China foiled their color revolution attempt in 1989, the CIA had to pivot to the "Tinyman Square Massacre" narrative.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 months ago

Very much like that, and they’re still getting mileage out of it with no effort, because Lemmitors get an endorphin rush every time they do the CIA’s work for free, the brave defenders of freedom & democracy that they are 🤦‍♂️

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[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago

this post isn't cheering on china, it's shitting on the west's hypocrisy.

also you might want to look up who funded the wahabis who groomed the terrorists that the crackdown is a response to.

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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 30 points 2 months ago

We’re very butthurt about our failed color revolution, and we’re very concerned that we can’t even manage to make lemonade out of our lemon.

Westerners, every time:

[–] 5oap10116@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago

Its only legal if you just want to steal their natural resources

[–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago (3 children)

“Our genocides are the good genocides” thinking persisting this long is baffling. Even more disturbing is these people are in power.

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is it though? People hear what they want to hear and believe what they want to believe. No one wants to believe that their privileges are predicated on suffering elsewhere.

Westerners in particularly have always been very "heads in the sand" when it comes to modern history but it's not surprising. Every nation struggles with the darker aspects of their history.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Correct: https://redsails.org/masses-elites-and-rebels/

Meanwhile I get nothing out of it but insults and the hope that a (very) few will begin their deprogramming journey, as I did soon after 9/11.

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[–] narwhal@mander.xyz 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (20 children)

The people that try to equate fake genocide with real genocide are like the school staff punishing bully and victim alike. They are enabling the abuses. Also it must be deeply insulting to the real victims in gaza.

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[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Genocide is bad. If your ideology prevents you from agreeing with that statement, you are a monster.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 29 points 2 months ago

Nobody here is denying that genocide is bad, what's in question is what the US Empire says is happening vs what is actually happening. The US Empire has lied before, such as the babies taken from incubators story or Iraq's WMD, but it was only long after the dust had begun to settle in Iraq that the liberals started to agree with the leftists that the evidence was actually insufficient after all.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

Listen, I'm sure there's a very good reason why we have radically different policies towards Afghani Muslims and Uyghur Muslims, despite the fact they share a border and a litany of cultural practices.

[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (19 children)

Hot take:

The US has committed horrifying war crimes and crimes against humanity against Muslims and continues to do so.

And so does China

Its always fascinating to see the war between Nazis and Tankies fight over which imperial power is based, rather than demonstrating a working frontal lobe and damning both for their crimes.

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[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 months ago (3 children)

So concerned that we bribed foreign terrorists to blow shit up in Xinjiang, forcing China to spend on education and job programs there.

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