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Developers of apps that use end-to-end encryption to protect private communications could be considered hostile actors in the UK.

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 248 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (15 children)

Remember how, before the internet, intelligence agencies by default didn't know what anyone was saying to anyone else face to face or by mail, and had to actually work to find out? The country didn't fall apart. Why is the standard now that everything must be handed to them on a plate? Did they just get lazy?

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 51 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

I'm not disagreeing with you but what would happen back then is that they simply wouldn't stop the crime.

At some point we need to decide if giving up all semblance of personal privacy is worth stopping some of that. I vote no enthusiastically. We just have to accept that some of that crime won't be stopped and law enforcement will have to work harder.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 26 points 1 month ago (3 children)

If our countries could stop doing things that give people a reason to commit terroristic acts, Maybe that would solve some of it and we could be more secure in our papers and possessions without unlawful interference and undue search and seizures but that’s apparently none of my business

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago

Ok but that is a separate discussion.

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