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Developers of apps that use end-to-end encryption to protect private communications could be considered hostile actors in the UK.

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 248 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (15 children)

Remember how, before the internet, intelligence agencies by default didn't know what anyone was saying to anyone else face to face or by mail, and had to actually work to find out? The country didn't fall apart. Why is the standard now that everything must be handed to them on a plate? Did they just get lazy?

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 51 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

I'm not disagreeing with you but what would happen back then is that they simply wouldn't stop the crime.

At some point we need to decide if giving up all semblance of personal privacy is worth stopping some of that. I vote no enthusiastically. We just have to accept that some of that crime won't be stopped and law enforcement will have to work harder.

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

This isn't a new concept by any means. The argument of crime prevention has been used since governments existed to strip rights

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago

Sure, and we've always compromised on the 2 as a society. But we continually trend more and more towards prevention rather than privacy and sovereignty.

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