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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Everyone responding here and confused why this matters seem not get the point. This post is just a warning that the types of people most of us don't want to associate with are now on that platform. The problem is not that they are verified, it's that they exist there at all.

Edit: some reasonable arguments have been made here for allowing these Nazis on Blue sky, which I originally thought was a bad idea, but maybe disallowing them won't actually solve anything and may exacerbate things. I don't know. I'll think about it some more.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

They have always been on there. There have been waves of brigading and trolling, etc. BlueSky's blocking tools and options for no algorithm dramatically limit their visibility, and they eventually have no impact and get bored and eventually go away.

[–] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Personally, I do want a common communication platform for people I despise because I want to be able to keep tabs on their public announcements. Also, I don't want any tech platform to have sole authority over who can communicate, as in the present, that will invariably work against the left more than the right.

I do not want to share close proximity to them on a network graph, or regularly engage with their supporters, though. So I agree that federation is crucial. But to be clear, it's not because I want to ban them from a platform, it's because I want managed distance and better moderation.

I don't mind Bluesky verifying them, but I'm glad that on Mastodon I don't have to share the same giant server as them.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If it's an official govt agency I think it makes sense for them to be allowed on communications platforms and to be verified, so that people can see what they're saying and know that it's an official statement.

Then people can see the post and make their own judgements about it, knowing it's an official agency statement.
Having twitter style factcheck for blatant misinformation is also important for this, though.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, I can see that perspective too, but at the same time it's Nazi propaganda they're posting. There aren't really any good options.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

Yeah, but at the same time it's kinda good for people to be able to see the kind of shit they're posting for themselves.

It is propaganda, but it's not good propaganda, and that's what the community fact checking thing is meant to counter, imo.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu -2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

No, that's exactly what I thought, and I'm still confused as why this is bad? Do people want baby's first echo chamber again?

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's not hard to understand that people want Nazi ideology to be rejected.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I do. But.. how will that happen if they are not verified...?

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, I wasn't the clearest here. I thought they shouldn't be allowed on there at all, but I'm rethinking it now.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 1 points 1 week ago

Like, if they post a nazi thing they can be admonished and punished and shown for what they are, but if they just are ignored, what's the platform for? We want to expose and ridicule them as much as possible

[–] reabsorbthelight@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We also want to ensure that conservatives are repeatedly alienated so they build their own networks and never see other points of view! /s

[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But mostly just don't want to see points of view that we disagree with.

[–] reabsorbthelight@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Echo chamber in different words. I grew up with a lot of conservatives. Hard second amendment people. They listen if you listen

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

They listen if you listen

In a fantasy world version of the US, conservatives do that, in the real world US the minute you start doing that you have abandoned what it means to be a conservative.

[–] reabsorbthelight@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

https://www.streetepistemology.com/

Check this out. I used to do things like this with hard core right wing (trump flags, cleaning their guns everyday).

My goal wasn't to convince them, but get them to think critically and feel safe around liberals. The ones I talked to were usually convinced leftists were out to get them. I was a leftist who would literally just listen to them, watch Fox news with them and then we'd get burritos and hang out.

I want them to think of me and other friends, when they see videos of ICE beating up people. I'll never convince them to vote blue, but maybe I can convince them that we can disagree about politics, but still be friends

[–] Fleur_@aussie.zone -4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How the tf would them being verified make them "on the platform" as opposed to them literally being on the platform but not verified. Total cope comment from someone who tried to back rationalise their initial reaction.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. What about my statement means that them being there before was okay? I assume most people upset about it didn't have a fucking clue they were there before. Not that it matters since it's clear from your tone you're a troll.

[–] Fleur_@aussie.zone -3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The original post explicitly calls them out specifically for being verified, not being on the platform. Then you walk in, dick swinging, saying "ummm ackchully it's about them being on the platform not being verified. And you're illiterate for being able to read and thinking otherwise 😏" yeah okay buddy keep coping

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you actually read the thread like I did you might get it. But yeah I'm weirdly macho and also wrong or something

[–] Fleur_@aussie.zone -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you actually read the post like I did you might get it, but yeah I'm weirdly illiterate and also wrong or something