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The Protein-Obsessed Fast Food Industry's Latest Innovation: Big-Ass Cups of Plain Meat
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TIL plants aren't alive.
I dunno if we can call them creatures. Considering a creature is almost universally considered an animal, it is at least considered motile.
They're not harmed
So you say! You could be a shill for Big Bean!
You're thinking of Boggis, Bean is the mean one
how are you defining harm?
Neither are chickens when I eat their unfertilised eggs, but vegans still complain.
That's because the chickens in factory farms are kept in squalid conditions that have them attempting suicide by autophagia if they aren't debeaked!
Says "freeroaming outside" on the package at least.
That's a lot better, but I have a secondary concern I didn't want to clog the above comment with. It's that chickens as they exist today shouldn't really exist. They've been bred to the point that the daily periods destroy their bodies. It's not healthy. It's like the problem with pugs, we should have left them alone, and now that they're like this, it's our responsibility to breed them back to health. Continuing to breed more with these health problems is an act of abuse in itself.
It's some better, not a lot if you research most of the sources for those packages that say "freeroaming." The only way the minimum standard for "freeroaming" labeling looks good (and, face it, no profitable operation does more than the minimum required) is by comparison with the factory hell-houses.
OK, so you're saying we should let them die out? Go extinct?
That's one solution I would prefer to the current situation. The other is breeding them for health and happiness. We fucked them up and we have a responsibility to use that same power to fix them.
I mean, if they're your chickens then sure, but if you're buying eggs from the grocery store then those chickens are in hell.
And here's the hard to reconcile thing: if everybody did their absolute best effort, investing 5 hours a week in the family or local cooperative chicken farm to get their eggs, and nobody bought mass produced eggs anymore, salmonella and other disease deaths would skyrocket. Not that everybody who raises chickens for the eggs gets salmonella, just that modern rates are so low - a return to individual farming would see them rise 10x, maybe 100x - even with conscientious chicken ranchers.
Now, get real about how much effort most people would actually put in on personal chicken-egg operations if they had no mass produced options and you're looking at 1000x increases...
Fun fact, my wife and I got salmonella from eating airbnb homestead eggs!