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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (9 children)

People might have access to the best cards without spending copious amounts of money to middlemen!

I mean, you joke, but this isn't an unreasonable critique. A big component of the MTG popularity boom was the regular distribution chain, necessitating a huge constellation of second-hand collectors and traders. Overproducing deck-specific cards that flood the market destroys the baseload of people buying cards from the retailer.

Hasbro is effectively eating its own seed corn. It's fucking over the people who will buy a thousand boxes of crap looking for half a dozen copies of the card that sells secondhand for a profitable margin.

It’s very dangerous to the game if people can be good at it without it being rich!

Outside a few niche vintage and legacy tournaments, you can be very good at the game without needing to own the highest end cards. Plenty of people run pauper decks that can outperform the high end decks when played with a working knowledge of what those high end decks try to do (ie, The Meta). Mono-green elves and mono-red goblins have dominated the game space practically since its inception. You'll rarely find a release year where you struggle to build one of these decks for less than $50. And that's assuming you and a few friends don't draft regularly and luck into the right cards, then trade among yourselves to build a winning board.

What Hasbro is doing is more akin to the Louvre coming out with identical print copies of high end auctioned paintings. I'd say the bigger complaint isn't that they're doing this so much as that they're getting in on a game third-party forgers have been playing for decades.

You can go online and find an Unlimited series duplicate Mox Emerald for maybe $20. And it'll pass muster at any game table in America that doesn't have a professional on staff to check its print number.

[–] dannikjerriko@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Talking budget decks and then quoting a budget format is misleading when talking about price to pay magic. So is using proxy prices when talking about the prices wizards is setting.

The standard budget deck right now is 500$ (Izzet Lessons)

(Standard) Sultai Reanimator is 850$

(Standard) Bant Airbending is 800$

(Standard) Simic Ouroboroid is 900$

(Modern) Boris Energy is 850$

(Modern) Belcher is 350-450$

(Modern) Amulet Titan is 950$

Vivi cauldron led to a one deck standard and cost about 1000$

Wizards pricing and printing policy has led to only proxy/casual formats and budget formats being affordable to play. It’s why formats like Pioneer are basically dead and standard is nearly on life support at local most LGS. My metro area has dropped standard night from all but one game store.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Talking budget decks and then quoting a budget format is misleading

The standard budget deck right now is 500$ (Izzet Lessons)

You can build Black/Red Blight Goblins for $21 or a Mono-Blue Towns deck for $20. Both play competitively.

Vivi cauldron led to a one deck standard and cost about 1000$

That's because Vivi Ornitier runs $100/ea and Agatha's Soul Cauldron runs another $130/ea. Don't build a deck where a single card is going to run you three figures. Problem solved.

It’s why formats like Pioneer are basically dead and standard is nearly on life support at local most LGS.

Well, that and the online scene cutting into the physical game's player base, sure.

[–] dannikjerriko@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Competitive where? At the LGS the weaker end of decks you are going to run into for standard are things like bunnies, boros burn, collectors cage, landfall, temur combo, roots, dimir tempo, mono white tokens, esper control, sultai control, and esper/dimir self bounce.

Most of these decks are still expensive because any mythic play piece right now is expensive and deck defining.

Many playable uncommons like stock up and boltwave are multiple dollars a pop.

Most of these decks are using play pieces that are printed for commander or other eternal formats that keep prices high.

The land base in standard is crazy expensive. All of the uncommon lands are tap lands that cause you to die on the spot to aggro decks since standard is a turn 3-4 format and the land base is largely coming from either shock lands that are expensive as they are good in nearly every format, verges that are underprinted, and starting town/multiversal that are underprinted.

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