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Epic Games CEO Tim Sweeney supports the $900 million lawsuit against Valve, arguing Steam is "the only major store still holding onto payment ties and 30% junk fee" (finance.yahoo.com)

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[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago (3 children)

No instead epic charges 12%, and if you use unreal engine but don't sell on egs they get a 5% royalty fee on all your sales. Sure those number are lower but egs isn't out here "empowering" devs

[–] lofuw@sh.itjust.works 50 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Epic would charge Steam's fees if they had Steam's marketshare.

Everyone thinking they care about creators or customers is a fucking moron.

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Epic would charge Steam’s fees if they had Steam’s marketshare.

while at the same time providing worse service.
Ever noticed the difference between Epic checkout vs Steam checkout? And that is the part one would want to make the best, because that's what gets the money in.

[–] jim3692@discuss.online 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Out of all the services that Valve offers, you decided to compare their checkout page?

Valve offers to devs, completely free of charge, full access to their matchmaking network, across any platform
Valve has vastly improved Windows games compatibility on Linux, by developing Proton. Epic locks users to Windows, because of their anti-cheat.
Valve revolutionized handheld gaming, by bringing desktop games to portable devices
Valve requires devs to show in the games' store page whether it contains AI slop. Epic is a supporter of AI slop

[–] ulterno@programming.dev -1 points 8 hours ago

Yes, because the checkout page gets revenue ⇒ the bottom line.

The points you say are the things Valve is doing extra to provide value to the customer.
The point I am saying, is the first thing that anyone working for money needs to care about.

steampowered checkout page:

loads in a reasonable time
has the same colour theme as the rest of the website

Epic checkout page:

even the in-app checkout page is slower than the Steam web checkout page
- is slow not only before loading but also after clicking the 'place order' button
White colour on dark theme website/app

[–] turmacar@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Are they close to feature parity with Steam yet? Like after a quick search of it looks like they added cloud saves but that took years.

[–] nyctre@piefed.social 7 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Not even close. Plus, it's not just about feature parity. It's also about ease of use. EGS is still shit as of 2 months ago.

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 0 points 12 hours ago

While EGS increases its minimum Windows # requirements, Steam client is already available on Linux.
Although I would prefer being able to build it myself rather than keeping it in Firejail

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

if you use unreal engine but don’t sell on egs they get a 5% royalty fee on all your sales.

Sounds like abusing market power.

[–] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 23 hours ago

100%. Valve needs to start suing Epic for their game engine monopoly. It’s not about Valve it’s about protecting gamers.