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[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 182 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (10 children)

I wonder how many trillions of dollars the Trump dumpster fire will end up costing American business.

You'd think our corporate overlords would remove him.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 49 minutes ago

The corporate overlords area fucking idiots. They always have been.

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 63 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

Let's say the pre-Trump economy is worth $100 trillion, and a particular billionaire's share is $2 billion. Let's say Trump catastrophically decreases the economy's value to $50 trillion, while increasing corruption such that that Trump is getting more power, and the billionaire's share is $10 billion.

This is followed by a collapsing market that creates a dip in share prices or private valuation, the assets of which can be bought for pennies on the dollar, eventually leading to that billionaire having $30 billion in a total economy worth $20 trillion.

Win/win for Trump and the billionaire, at the cost of everyone else.

That's basically what's happening, and will continue to happen.

[–] kn0wmad1c@programming.dev 9 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm not an economist, so here's my ass talking, but I don't think your example scales out. I think you're making the mistake of equating the stock market to the economy. It isn't.

Not everyone wins in a failing economy. If one billionaire makes out, three more lose money.

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Not everyone wins in a failing economy. If one billionaire makes out, three more lose money.

No, yeah, that's true. But the billionaires are also competing with each other in a (perceived) zero-sum game and they believe the ones who are cozying closest to Trump will be the best ones positioned to make money - either in a corrupt or a failing economy. But every recession has been a golden opportunity for billionaires.

Heck, in post-collapse Russia, this is how oligarchs first appeared - the "shock therapy" of the 1990s transition to a market economy dropped the value of resources to nothing, and the rich at the time bought them and became the ultra-rich. Some didn't make it. ( Like a super-bacteria forming from the ones not killed by antibiotics, the ones that survived were even more resistant to control.)

[–] kn0wmad1c@programming.dev 1 points 2 hours ago

Good example, especially given that it looks like a Russian oligarchy is where we've been headed since 2016

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

This is followed by a collapsing market that creates a dip in share prices or private valuation

I am not a billionaire, just an average joe lucky to be able to borrow a few thousand from my Roth 401k in order to buy oil stocks in March 2020 at 90% off.

I earned between 15x and 20x what I invested and paid off my student loans when the market recovered.

It's not just for the billionaires, but you're right, all of this is intentional and the wealthiest will profit the most.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 40 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if they're working on it. He's destroying their bottom lines.

That said, if you go after the king, you'd best not miss.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 24 points 7 hours ago

Their bottom lines aren't very important to their goal of owning everything. Money is just a vehicle for power, but once they own everything and everyone they won't need it.

[–] h54@programming.dev 17 points 8 hours ago

The parasites are still making money. Rocking the boat would temporarily interrupt the party, they'll continue to party until they're forced to change.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 10 points 7 hours ago

The question is incomplete. They will cost trillions, but the presidency, the party fixing elections right now, will cost the country the dollar itself. They will max out borrowing, then print money to pay off the debt and de facto default. They will turn all of those dollars into very much less valuable things.

Presuming no one stops them.

[–] standarduser@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 hours ago

American big business? Not a dime. It’ll be a bailout on the American tax dollar I bet. 

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 6 hours ago

They'll make sure it hurts us, long before it ever touches them.

[–] CobblerScholar@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

True risk is also anathema to them, probably hedging bets on how the midterms go before they make big moves

I think it's simpler than that and just is down to the impact on the next quarter's profits.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

It's kind of a weird game theory thing, because the industries affected aren't consistently losing. A decision he makes on Wednesday can help the finance industry but hurt the tech industry, and then he can reverse it on Thursday and now the finance industry is tanking but the insurance industry is up. It's tough to know who would work together to pull him out of office, because between any two given days, the people who have the money have different opinions on how he's doing.