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I don't understand how you reconcile these 2 statements. They can't watch their kids 100% but also if the kid does something illegal, it's their responsibility? You can raise your kids to do whatever you want but they often do not listen.
Good luck telling your kids they can't get on the internet. Remember you can't watch them all day.
Point is, if the parents are irresponsible, then who does it hurt? The parents? No. It hurts the children, and it hurts the rest of society.
Your same argument can be used to abolish any sort of legal protections for children like gambling, driving, smoking, drinking, tattoos, etc. Everything should be the parents' responsibility, right?
The reconsoliation is that as a parent, you are responsible/accountable for the actions of your child at all times, whether you are watching them or not. It's part of being a parent. Raising your children not to be little sociopaths who can eventually be trusted as adults, is a major part of parenting.
Let me ask you: Should parents be responsible for damage done by their child?
I'm not really expecting yes/no to that answer, so feel free to elaborate on it
Criminally liable? That's insane.
Parents have limited control of that. Children are not remote controlled robots, they're their own people, and some of them are shit, no matter what you do.
If you can demonstrate a pattern of bad parenting, sure.
So, if a teen takes their mom's keys, and drives her car into your parked car, should you be on the hook for the damages to your vehicle? Should you be on the hook for the damages to her vehicle? Especially if it's a first time offense?
My answer to your question is on your comment.
Gotcha. So if it is the first time, or maybe the second time, fuck you, pay for the damage someone else did to your car and their own car. Maybe on the 4th or 5th time, we can start getting the teen's parents to pay for it?
Welcome to life bro. Shit happens.
Yep. Un-parented teen burns down your house, shit happens.
Another kid brings their dad's gun to school and shoot your kid, shit happens.
Kid has to steal food in order to survive. Shit happens.
Clearly, the parents are completely beyond reproach.
Seriously, do you even think of the wider implications of a position that you are arguing, or do you just pick the dumbest fucking stance and stick with it all the way? Parents have been raising their kids for literally as long as there have been people on this earth. It's practically globally agreed upon that the parents are responsible for raising and controlling their child, until the child has developed enough to make their own decisons, understand the risks, and accept the consequences for their actions.
And... To go further, your "world view" about "bad shit happens" can be extended to cover "My child saw porn, shit happens", which would break down your argument that it is necessary for discord to collect and store PII from millions of people.
Wow, that really escalated quickly from car damage. These are all crimes you can charge kids with just like adults. You cannot and should not charge their parents, who had abso-fuckin-lutely nothing to do with it. This is insane. Seriously, do you even think of the wider implications of a position that you are arguing, or do you just pick the dumbest fucking stance and stick with it all the way?
And, to go further, we definitely shouldn't have any laws about drinking, smoking, driving, getting tattoos, etc. We just leave it up to the parents to make those decisions too, right? We have to trust them all to make the right decisions and don't bother making any rules or laws, right? 🤡
https://apnews.com/article/james-crumbley-jennifer-crumbley-oxford-school-shooting-e5888f615c76c3b26153c34dc36d5436
These two had "literally nothing" to do with it, and they were charged for it. It's called Neglect.
https://abcnews.com/US/parents-charged-manslaughter-boy-struck-car-gastonia-north-carolina/story?id=122500748
And yes, if your kid commits crimes, then you can be fined and sued for it. You are responsible for the conduct of your child while your child is incapable of being responsible for themselves.
Let's not forget, by your framework of parental responsibility, if your unsupervised child sees porn on discord because they wandered into a community of people talking about porn... Tough shit, that's life.
Drinking and driving can and do harm others. I understand age gating those activities to prevent unresponsible children from hurting other people and themselves. Remember, by your framework of parental responsibility, "tough shit, that's life". The age limits on smoking and also drinking, are there to prevent tobacco and alcohol vendors from hooking children on addictive substances. Remember, by your framework of parental responsibility, "tough shit, that's life". Age requirements to get tattoos are there to prevent children from getting life-long body altering ink from a vendor who had a financial interest in doing the work. Some states do allow teens to get tattoos, with parental consent BTW. Remember, by your framework of parental responsibility, "tough shit, that's life".
This is exactly what I meant when I said you should think about the wider implications of your argument before you make it and nail your identity to it.