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Fluxer is another open-source Discord alternative (fluxer.app)

submitted 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) by artyom@piefed.social to c/technology@lemmy.world

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Several years ago I had a Discord community with hundreds of users. This was an IRL community, so it was very difficult to abandon but I did anyway. Tried to get people to leave but they were unwilling. So I handed it off to another member and deleted my account. Now that admin has contacted me again and let me know everyone is ready to leave. I found Fluxer yesterday while poking around #Discord on Mastodon and I think we're going to end up there.

Fluxer is still very early in development and they have plans for many advanced features in the roadmap but it's very feature-rich today. Current monetization plan is freemium + Patreon-like monetization. I understand that may be a dealbreaker for some but there aren't a ton of other great options, and everything is open source, and self-hostable, and if you do, you get all of the premium features for free, while still communicating with the main instance over federation (in roadmap). That still leaves it susceptible to Mattermost-style enshittification but honestly rolling back updates solves most of those style of problems.

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[+] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone -9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

They could've just made it donations, or made less of the features require premium.

Stoat and Matrix do fine with that model.

How do you think things get funding

I mean, there's literally a job title called "investor", where the whole point is to go around looking for things that are in early stages of developing and going "HERE'S SOME MONEY, IF YOU GIVE ME A PERCENTAGE OF ALL FUTURE PROFITS"

Edit: no autocomplete, I don't want to say "Wales stage", wtf

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I mean, there's literally a job title called "investor",

Why are we acting like investors are a good thing now? The platonic ideal of "an investor", someone who seeds money and hovers hands-off to watch the investment grow, has been dead so long you could be forgiven for thinking it never even existed.

Maybe they don't want a single revenue source to present undue influence on development. If their revenue is entirely supported by their premium model and they make a decision bad for the community, money dries up. You think Discord would be doing dumb shit like it is, if they weren't floating off investors and whatever Palantir is throwing at them?

Of all the things to complain about, the fact that people can pay to have an animated avatar or screenshare in 4K (a resolution that a super-minority of people even have a monitor capable of rendering at) is baffling.

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

y'know, yeah, I've been convinced by ye and others, fluxer also feels like it's not a complete shambles too, which the money was probably a helper towards that

[–] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Stoat and Matrix do fine with that model.

Having checked a year ago and checking again now, their UX has barely improved and the GUI is still significantly worse than Discord. They need some sort of monetization strategy for funding and leadership that isn't a shitshow so that they can make something that people will actually want to use.

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 days ago

https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/19197183