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Tesla Robotaxis Reportedly Crashing at a Rate That's 4x Higher Than Humans (gizmodo.com)

submitted 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) by spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works to c/technology@lemmy.world

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Self-driving cars are often marketed as safer than human drivers, but new data suggests that may not always be the case.

Citing data from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), Electrek reports that Tesla disclosed five new crashes involving its robotaxi fleet in Austin. The new data raises concerns about how safe Tesla’s systems really are compared to the average driver.

The incidents included a collision with a fixed object at 17 miles per hour, a crash with a bus while the Tesla vehicle was stopped, a crash with a truck at four miles per hour, and two cases where Tesla vehicles backed into fixed objects at low speeds.

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[–] ageedizzle@piefed.ca 5 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (3 children)

He's right in that if current AI models were genuinely intelligent in the way humans are then cameras would be enough to achieve at least human level driving skills. The problem of course is that AI models are not nearly at that level yet

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I am a Human and there were occasions where I couldn't tell if it's an obstacle on the road or a weird shadow...

[–] ageedizzle@piefed.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

Yes. In theory cameras should be enough to get you up to human level driving competence but even that is a low bar.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 26 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Even if they were, would it not be better to give the car better senses?

Humans don't have LIDAR because we can't just hook something into a human's brain and have it work. If you can do that with a self-driving car, why cut it down to human senses?

[–] 48954246@lemmy.world 8 points 7 hours ago

Exactly, with this logic why have motors or wheels?

You don't have wheels so you shouldn't use cars

[–] ageedizzle@piefed.ca 3 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

I agree it would be better. I'm just saying that in theory cameras are all that would be required to achieve human level performance, so long as the AI was capable enough

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 1 points 15 minutes ago

Except humans have self cleaning lenses. Cars don't.

[–] embed_me@programming.dev 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

"So long as the AI has the same intelligence as a human brain" is a pretty big assumption. That assumption is in sci-fi territory.

[–] ageedizzle@piefed.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

Yeah thats my point

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Cameras are inferior to human vision in many ways. Especially the ones used on Teslas.

[–] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 1 points 52 minutes ago

Lower dynamic range for one.

[–] prex@aussie.zone 1 points 1 hour ago

Genuinely asking how so?
Are tesla cameras even binocular?