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20 Years of Banning Phones. We Don’t Have That Long for AI. (pulletsforever.com)

submitted 15 hours ago by davidwkeith@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

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I co-teach AP Computer Science A through Microsoft's TEALS program. The classroom runs on Chromebooks, Google Classroom, and code.org (AWS). Corporate infrastructure top to bottom. This year I added an AI tutor. That's apparently the controversial part.

The research is interesting: a Wharton study found students using standard ChatGPT performed 17% worse on exams—the "crutch" effect. But students using AI with pedagogical guardrails showed no negative effect. The problem isn't AI in education. It's unguided AI. So I built a tutor that asks probing questions instead of giving answers. I'm sharing the prompt I use and how to set one up yourself.

While, China made AI education mandatory for six-year-olds this year. We're still deciding whether to block ChatGPT.

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[–] XLE@piefed.social 18 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I got into volunteering through TEALS, Microsoft’s nonprofit.

Good for you / I'm sorry to hear that

The class runs on Chromebooks managed by Google Classroom, writing code on code.org—which is powered by AWS.

My condolences to the students. It sounds like they're already being brought up in a world where they are expected to own nothing and be happy.

I hope you teach them about how terrible this privacy violation is, and how they are slowly being groomed into dependency.

Corporate infrastructure is already the foundation of public CS education.

That's very sad too.

...wait, you're upset because you want to indoctrinate the children with more stuff?

[+] davidwkeith@lemmy.world -9 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Yeah, no. The state of affairs is sad, but a common complaint about AI in the classroom is there is no open source, federated, or other 'free' version. It sucks, but we need to work with the tools we have.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 hours ago

a common complaint about AI in the classroom is there is no open source, federated, or other 'free' version. It sucks,

The usable free LLMs that can be run on-prem sucks? Is that what sucks? Because there are some.

Do the complainers know they're complaining about a non-issue? Can you use that situation to help describe what Beggaring the Question means?

[–] XLE@piefed.social 10 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Don't the tools we have include internet and even (gasp) book literacy rather than going to a chatbot? At very best, evidence AI helps anyone is shaky. At worst, we are witnessing a reverse Flynn effect in education right now, and this alleged tool - besides not doing what was promised and can't even make enough money to prop itself up - has been caught enticing children into suicide. If a billionaire genius like Sam Altman can't code in a guardrail to save a child's life, how can you?

Why encourage it?

Are the children being taught a tool, or are they being used as guinea pigs?

[–] RalfWausE@feddit.org 7 points 13 hours ago

No, de decisively don't "need to work with the tools we have". We have to teach our students the dangers if that abomination and ways to disrupt, hamper, poison and destroy this stuff.