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[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

If like the guy further up this thread you only drive 8k km a year that's going to take 10 years to reach parity. The Li-Ion battery may not even last that long.

Obviously if you drive for work or commute long distances that can't be covered by public transport then an EV makes sense, but with the expansion of WFH it may not for many.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

That's 80k km if you live somewhere where electricity comes 100% from coal, where I live with hydro it's under 20k km. You're also making an assumption without knowing how much that 8k km emits with their gas car.

To give an example with numbers...

Gas car produces 5 tons of CO2 when being manufactured and then emits 1 ton a year driving 8k km

Electric car produces 10 tons of CO2 when being manufactured then emits 0.25 tons a year driving 8k km

After 6 ⅔ (we'll round it up to 7) years the EV compensated for the extra CO2 required for its production and has emitted 10 + (7 x 0.25) = 11.75 tons of CO2. Meanwhile the gas car has emitted 5 + (7 x 1) = 12 tons of CO2 and the difference will keep increasing.

As for the battery failure scare, it's a non issue with the vast majority of models and it ignores the extra maintenance required on the gas car that also pollutes.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

We're about 10k past that mileage where we're supposed to be having battery issues, maybe need a replacement, with our Prius and they aren't happening. I've been wondering if it was just a scare from the salesman to push me to an ICE. We've kept on top of the maintenance and it's been the most reliable car I've ever driven. Might just be a Toyota thing tho. I set aside the money for the repair and I'm waiting, but I'd really rather spend it on hookers and blow.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago

I know that the hybrid version was/is a taxi driver favorite and some drove 600k km and the battery was still ok 🤷

The Nissan Leaf is the biggest culprit I think, they decided not to actively cool the battery and if people drive to work, charge, go back home, charge, it cooks it...