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[–] biggerbogboy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I don’t get the complaining about the amount of ram, this is intended for students and other people with less demanding workflows. If it doesn’t fit your specific workflow, it’s fine, it’s just not for you, it’s just like people hating on Chromebooks because you can’t play ray traced cyberpunk on it or edit 4K video without stuttering.

There’s also the fact that macOS memory management is simplified due to having a singular memory pool between all processors, as well as the aggressive memory compression.

And those of you saying “8gb isn’t even enough for web browsing”, how? I’m using a decade old ex-school laptop on a daily basis, with 4gb of soldered DDR4 and a celeron n4100, I have I’d say around 30 tabs open at once and switch probably a couple hundred times in a period of around 5 hours, fully sustaining an interior design course with only a few very rare stutters.

There’s also the fact I’ve heard from many base model MacBook Air m1 users that it barely ever hitches, one of those is my sister, her workflow is heavy image editing, video editing and other design work, she has not had a single issue with it, and that’s with the bloated adobe suite.

And people misunderstand the reasons Apple solders their memory, sure it’s firstly to lock the consumer into a specific tier, but it’s also so their unified memory architecture can work as flawlessly as possible. You can’t add SODIMMs or LPCAMM modules to a MacBook, just like how you cant either with a strix halo APU just like Framework demonstrated, inconsistent signal integrity causes enough issues that it isn’t commercially viable.

Sure, I’d love Apple to make modular memory a thing for their Macs, but quite frankly, I doubt they can even achieve it without any compromises. There’s also the fact that I’d love if Apple could’ve put 16gb of unified memory into the MacBook neo with no raise in price, but realistically, the chipset design they chose, the a18 pro, only supports up to 8gb, and quite frankly they would never achieve a better price today while also designing it to handle a dozen memory tiers, as either they’d need to choose an M series chipset or design a dozen different types of A series packages with some future chipset that doesn’t exist right now, defeating the purpose of having a low price. The low price isn’t just due to the external design choices, it’s also because they chose to only build a single package, an 8gb a18 pro, which would reduce costs overall for the model as manufacturing can just scale, not increase in complexity.

I don’t mind if you downvote, it’s just a bunch of gripes I have with the overall reaction about this frankly pretty awesome new product offering, even if I don’t really like Apple a whole lot.

[–] sefra1@lemmy.zip 5 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

The low price

Dude, there isn't anything low about that price. That's the point, with 600 dollars you can get a very decent computer from pretty much any other brand with at least the double of ram.

You see, you can get an used thinkpad for less than half the price and still have twice the ram.

It's just a scam product for people who know nothing about computers and will pay for this trash because they simply think "apple a good brand, right?".

[–] biggerbogboy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 39 minutes ago (1 children)

the reason I said the price was low is simply because IT IS for what you're getting, especially where I live. This Macbook Neo starts at $900 AUD, and after checking local retailers like Officeworks, JB HI-FI and Centrecom, and from what I've found, the laptops at that same or similar price tag are usually worse performing, plastic built laptops with worse displays. Sure, some come with 16gb of shared SODIMM memory, but a majority come with 8gb. Around a third of them are Chromebooks, the rest are windows laptops. Most come with core i3 or i5 or Ryzen 3, 5 or 7.

For the Macbook Neo, which you can preorder from these retailers for around that 900 bucks, you get a rigid aluminium build, a solid high PPI screen, 8gb of unified LPDDR5X memory, a better SoC than the competition, guaranteed OS support for around 7 years, strict OS memory compression and management, and some pleasant colours compared to the drab grey and uncreative black colours.

RAM is never the only factor when choosing to buy a laptop, its all the other factors as well, those of which people miss and happen to get a laptop where the hinge breaks a year after, or the shared memory puts limits on their workflow and forces the CPU to work more copying data between two pools, or the display has shitty viewing angles that make it hard to look at, or an short accidental drop renders the machine inoperable, or even overuse of the ports cause them to fail, but they're soldered on and render that function of the device useless.

There are so many reasons to bag Apple, but you gotta hand it to them, they know how to standardise and have demonstrated that their devices are designed to weather being used well. And sure, you can definitely buy something a lot cheaper with a hell of a lot more ports, but its likely these ports in the Neo will be modular, since all ports are modular in the Airs, Pros, Mac Minis and Mac Studios.

[–] DavidDoesLemmy@aussie.zone 2 points 29 minutes ago (1 children)

Yeah this device is not for me, but I'm glad it exists as it means software/OS will have to support 8gb ram for years to come, and my 16gb MacBook will benefit.

[–] biggerbogboy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 17 minutes ago

Honestly same, I've got a 16gb Macbook Air m2 I bought new a few months ago, and frankly, even if m4 is the first tier to fully kick out 8gb, I'm glad that the Neo means this focus on lower resource use will continue.

What I do suspect though is once all the Neo stock is depleted, they'll either discontinue the whole line or make a new one with some stockpiled a19 chips, but I'm not sure which one... I guess we'll have to wait and see!

[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

It’s the same price and similar specs to current Chromebook models, which is what I think they are trying to compete against.

[–] sefra1@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

But why would anyone want to buy a chromebook? When they can buy a real computer for the same price?

If battery life is such an issue, just buy a powerbank.

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 1 points 50 minutes ago

Hardware is Chromebook priced. OS,is (AFAIK) full macOS, AKA a posix compliant Unix machine with a pretty nice GUI. Nice enough that several Linux WMs try to duplicate it.

[–] sonofearth@lemmy.world -2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Lol our store is doing billing customer management in google chrome on Debian With KDE Plasma on 8GB DDR3 pentium something. It was running Windows 7 6 months ago with 4gb ram for the same purpose. I then put a Sata SSD, increased the RAM to 8 and installed Debian. The laptops then would have costed like 300 USD and the upgrades costed like 30usd each laptpp for 4 laptops.

You really don’t need a soldered Half eaten and overpriced Apple laptop to do what you’re saying. Even an old laptop does it with few tweaks for fraction of the cost while keeping all the good stuff from those laptops like shit ton of ports. The only advantage of this mac is that its battery drain is quite low being ARM.

[–] biggerbogboy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

that's pretty awesome that your store repurposed old tech with a solid reason to do so, and frankly people constantly bag old tech for being old, even though most of the time it can still fulfill most of what they need, and I'm saying that as I type this on the aforementioned 10 year old laptop, a laptop of which I bought off a friend for $10 AUD because he got a new one because it felt shit using this one, mainly since it was on an old windows 10 install with a ton of bloat.

What my point was in the previous comment was not that you should avoid modularity, other brands or used tech, rather I was stating that people in these threads are constantly overblowing the point of 8gb of unified memory being the only tier, since most of us game, design, self host or do other things which can be quite demanding, but web browsing, document editing and the many other use cases for this Macbook Neo would barely phase it, just like how the machine I'm typing this on right now is cool to the touch and hasn't stuttered at all since boot around 2 hours ago.

and shit, If I needed a laptop right now and had to buy new, if there was an option a little more expensive for something with slightly worse build quality and performance, so I can have modularity, I'd snap that up, but these days its damn difficult to beat apple in the new tech market. The Mac Mini was probably the first stupidly affordable Apple machine, then the MacBook Air (which now sorta lost its edge since apple just price gated it by making 512gb storage minimum,) and now this Macbook Neo, all happening through a RAM shortage where consumers are benefiting from Apple's excessively long hardware contracts, mainly for the LPDDR5X chips.