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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/43965516

It is worth noting that both the hardware and software of Fairphone is heavily dependent on a Chinese company T2Mobile.

For those looking to avoid both US and Chinese companies, then the Jolla phone is the way to go.

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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 18 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (4 children)

the Jolla phone is the way to go

Are there any downsides to this? There has to be, right.

Edit: https://commerce.jolla.com/products/jolla-phone-sept-26

[–] artyom@piefed.social 24 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I mean the downsides are it's Linux. That's not without it's upsides but the downsides are huge.

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] artyom@piefed.social -1 points 10 hours ago

What about it?

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 5 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Would a phone have that many downsides? I would think that a computer would have much more. Maybe the phone companies don't play nice? I 100% don't know what the downsides would be.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 19 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

From my research, the phone part of the "phone" doesn't work very well. Which is a pretty big caveat.

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 7 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I have one. It has no issues with calling, video, ect...

It works in the states as well. And all apps too. I guess my only complaint is parts are getting hard to come by for fairphone 4. Which is why i bought the phone, to be repairable.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 10 points 11 hours ago

We were discussing Jolla, not fairphone

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 8 points 12 hours ago

Oh wait sorry for some reason the interface didnt load the first comment. I dodnt see the context. Woops!

[–] aegg@europe.pub 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Where did you get that from? I have been using one for the past 6 months without any calling issues.

[–] artyom@piefed.social -1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

It was a common complaint I caacross when researching a few different Linux devices.

I guess if you're not having issues I must be wrong, because everyone's experiences should mirror yours exactly.

[–] WolfmanEightySix@piefed.social 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

That’s the main thing you’re buying it for…

[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 2 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Well, are you? I can’t remember the last conversation I had over phone.

[–] WolfmanEightySix@piefed.social 6 points 12 hours ago

Yes. Especially with work, although not necessarily with my personal phone, it does happen.

Also, it’s a 650 Euro, £562, device….i don’t want to buy it and some parts don’t work.

[–] Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip 3 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

I'm with you - I'd pay extra for a phone that doesn't take calls just so I can force everyone to just send it as a text.

[–] baronvonj@piefed.social 3 points 10 hours ago

could you not just get a data-only SIM?

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 10 hours ago

Just delete all your phone apps and then you won't get anymore phone calls. Bing bang boom.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I'm on the phone all day. Believe it or not some people are different from you 🤯

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Goes both ways, I'd be happy if more calls would simply fail midway.

"What a shame, better write an e-mail."

[–] artyom@piefed.social -1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Goes both ways

No one was arguing the other way...

"What a shame, better write an e-mail."

Ah yeah, I love writing emails back and forth for 5 days to do what could be accomplished in a 5 minute phone call.

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

We clearly have different communication partners. Most of the issues of mine are solved by them thinking about it. Writing an e-mail forces them to.

[–] artyom@piefed.social -1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

WTF is a "communication partner"?

Anything you email me gets lots in a sea of bullshit imploding in my inbox. Just send me a text if it's not urgent or doesn't require discussion or you just don't like me.

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Well the way you write I'm not surprised people don't like you.

[–] artyom@piefed.social -1 points 7 hours ago

LOL because yours was so much nicer?

[–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

It also isn't as performant for the price, or so I've heard. They're working on it, but it isn't up to par with big name companies.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

What does that mean to you? I hear people say this all the time about various devices but I haven't come across anything my phone couldn't run in over a decade. I haven't had a flagship or top tier phone in that whole time either. Are you talking about actual functionality issues or just theoretical stuff and benchmarks?

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago

Are there any downsides to this? There has to be, right.

SailfishOS userland is proprietary software. AOSP is more open than SailfishOS. The Android compatibility layer of SailfishOS is based on AOSP, so the stack to get the most important 3rd party apps working relies as much on AOSP as any Android ROM.

Upside of SailfishOS: There is a decent chance that the upcoming Linux ARM version of Steam + Proton will run directly on that device.

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 4 points 11 hours ago

I think I bought one, but I'm not sure. I might have been very drunk back then.

[–] devfuuu@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

On the first one there were limitations on the android emulation stack. Not sure how they managed afterwards on later OS releases or how it will go with newer ones.