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[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Even the author of BNW wasn't sure of the world really was a dystopia or not. A lot of people do seem to have a lot of freedom, and most seem happy (or at least, not unhappy). Sure, a lot of questionable things have been done to achieve that goal, but if 99% is happy with their life; can it really be a dystopia?

[–] JasSmith@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A lot of Westerners look at dictatorships and authoritarian states and cannot comprehend why the citizens would accept such a fate. The answer is: food, safety, housing, and cultural and religious homogeneity. People don't really care that much what the people in charge are doing as long as their life is good.

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

There's also the idea that since the system "works" it shouldn't be changed. IIRC Le Guin did some stories on a place called Omelas that explored a similar idea: there's this utopian city, but they chuck a child down a hole to suffer there, which for some arcane reasons is deemed as necessary. Once people learn of this, they either accept it as indeed necessary or (rarely) leave.

A utopia only works if everyone thinks of the same thing as being a utopian society, which people generally just don't.

[–] JasSmith@sh.itjust.works 1 points 56 seconds ago

Yes this is why democracy is messy. Everyone has a different preference for the pros and cons of policies.