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[–] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 1 points 39 minutes ago

They even have a pet son

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Ask the IRL Christians how the nuclear family shit is going. No shortage of cheating and drug abuse happening, I bet

[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 5 points 1 day ago

why are they wearing the Orville uniforms

[–] new_world_odor@lemmy.world 59 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

no racism

white af family is the only visible race

Yeahhhh no fucking thanks.

[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 hours ago

Can't be racism if there's only one race

[–] carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The helldiver's two launch cutscene does show an interracial couple in a state propaganda video. Racism is one of the few ways the game doesn't to my knowledge show the government being fucked up. Everything else is horrible though

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The helldivers also have randomized skin colour, so soldiers of all races can become elite troops.

[–] MBech@feddit.dk 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

"elite troops"? You haven't met my teammates.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 5 points 16 hours ago

I think Helldivers have about the same rate of friendly fire as Navy Seals, and they probably write less books about it.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If there were only two humans left on Earth, they would find a reason to hate each other.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

what? no we wouldn't. fuck you for suggesting that.

[i meant that as a joke love you dude]

[–] Alpha71@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

yes but it does not express properly. it was not sarcastic, it was facetious.

[–] Lauchmelder@feddit.org 15 points 1 day ago

I mean TBF we have a sample size of one family here, but also idk what this post is about so idk idk

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[–] carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works 97 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

They started an unprovoked three front war, prioritize citizens differently based on a state defined class system, got the earth blown up on at least one occasion, use their soldiers as disposable cannon fodder, and send everyone who disagree with them to reeducation camps. Other than that its a swell place.

Its tiring how bad general media literacy is that I can't tell if the 4chan post above is a joke.

[–] Alpha71@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

People forget that r/thedonald started out as a meme space. And then eventually people started taking it seriously.

Because people are stupid.

[–] bountygiver@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 hours ago

Basically flat earth society again huh?

[–] RamenJunkie@midwest.social 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The 4chan post probably is a joke.

The problem is, with a lot of their jokes, other users can't tell, so it becomes reality. See also, basically everything wrong with the US and MAGA idiots today.

[–] Papierkorb@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago

Voting Trump for President started as a joke on 4chan, and later on Reddit with r/The_Donald. And look where it got us, the butterfly effect in full force.

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I've seen one Lemmy bigbrain recently argue that even when artists are showing mafia or army to be terrible for people in them, they romanticize the mafia and army nonetheless, and that in general media glorifies its subject matter regardless of the author's intent. This schmuck would probably say with a straight face that ‘Helldivers’, or whatever this post is about, actually advocates for its model of utopia even if it pretends not to.

[–] Sunsofold@lemmings.world 11 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The idea of there being no anti-war films is older than Lemmy. The problem is Poe's Law related. You can make a movie or a game that shows the horror of war or the tyranny of distopian totalitarian regimes, but regardless of the intended message, your creation is filtered through your audience's lenses of perception, and some of that audience has been raised to be white supremacists, some have been through schooling that acts more as indoctrination than education, and some of that audience are just seriously fucking stupid.

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[–] Nangijala@feddit.dk 34 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I get the feeling that this anon would read A Brave New World and have an issue with it being labeled dystopian fiction.

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Even the author of BNW wasn't sure of the world really was a dystopia or not. A lot of people do seem to have a lot of freedom, and most seem happy (or at least, not unhappy). Sure, a lot of questionable things have been done to achieve that goal, but if 99% is happy with their life; can it really be a dystopia?

[–] JasSmith@sh.itjust.works 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

A lot of Westerners look at dictatorships and authoritarian states and cannot comprehend why the citizens would accept such a fate. The answer is: food, safety, housing, and cultural and religious homogeneity. People don't really care that much what the people in charge are doing as long as their life is good.

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 2 points 9 hours ago

There's also the idea that since the system "works" it shouldn't be changed. IIRC Le Guin did some stories on a place called Omelas that explored a similar idea: there's this utopian city, but they chuck a child down a hole to suffer there, which for some arcane reasons is deemed as necessary. Once people learn of this, they either accept it as indeed necessary or (rarely) leave.

A utopia only works if everyone thinks of the same thing as being a utopian society, which people generally just don't.

[–] Jiral@lemmy.org 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

To be fair, I always considered Brave New World a much less dire dystopy than 1984. I mean you have a really hard time arguing otherwise. People are not free in either but if you could choose, don't tell me you'd choose 1984.

But this debate is moot anyway, what we are heading towards is a combination of the worst of 1984 and Brave New World combined.

[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 1 points 23 hours ago

I always thought the world in The Sirens of Titan was worst, and most people seemed happy in it. I think that was just a popular religion rather then government mandated.

[–] Nangijala@feddit.dk 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have always liked that 1984 and A Brave New World are sort of dystopian companion pieces because they explore opposite sides of the spectrum of societies where free will is being suppressed. It has been a minute since I read both, but to me it's a mistake to compare them in terms of which version is worse to live in because yeah, 1984 would win that competition on the surface.

For me, when it comes to A Brave New World, the scary part is the idea of pleasure being used as a weapon to make people apathetic to the world around them and to thinking. There is something so incredibly sinister about this level of pleasure based compliance because there will be people who look at it on the surface and go: it's not so bad. Could be worse.

And it could. It can always be worse. I'm pretty sure that everybody would agree that 1984 is a better world to live in than the world of The Road. It's all relative.

But it's the idea that someone could read A Brave New World or a similar dystopia that disguises itself as a utopia, and ignore the warning signs and think it's fine. Because that, to me, means that such a world would be easier to implement. If people comply willingly, get lulled into that life and just let it happen because it feels good, is conventient and makes their dopamine go bzzt, then there is no need to use force. It's also why several aspects of A Brave New World has become more real in today's world than 1984 has. We have all walked right into it and we stay there because apathy and the nature of convenience and pleasure is something we don't want to give up. In 1984, they want to change the system, but fail. In A Brave New World they behold the outsider who tries to scream sense into them like he's an exotic animal and they do not care to understand his points because to do so would demand effort and hard work for the reward of a free life.

In my country we recently banned smart phones in all schools because the signs of longterm apathy towards learning has started to show in younger generations. Why should they put effort into their homework and assignments when they can get their dopamine hit on tiktok and snapchat with the snap of a finger? In adults in my country, the sense of community and togetherness has dwindled partially because we spend out free time on the phone and don't get bored enough to get together with our neighbors. There's a bit more to it than that, among other things that we outsourced child and eldercare to the state, so we don't really need each other like we used to.

In the world we currently live in, I think it is very important that we keep in mind that if we make everything easy and we waste our time on distractions that doesn't challenge or build us up, we will become apathetic and easier to control. I'm not talking about the state either. Those who control us are the tech giants and everyone who support them in order to steal our attention and time to waste it on additive, shallow nonsense all so companies can sell you stupid shit through ads.

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[–] nicolauz@feddit.org 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I once had a multiple hour long discussion with someone who claimed it's clearly a utopia... Free drugs, sex without consequences, guaranteed job,...

Freedom is for suckers apparently.

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[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 102 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Is this helldivers? The game where half of a planet’s population is forcibly turned into bug fuel every few years?

[–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 10 points 1 day ago

A lot of people I've met would honestly happily take a 50% chance to be sacrificed to ensure that those who aren't chosen live a happy life. I have no doubt that they'd think that right up until they're actually chosen, then they'd scream bloody murder about how unfair it is.

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 102 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Theres a reoccuring problem with bigly brained thinkers where they omit all the terrible shit and look at only what the propaganda wants them to. Even in a game this remains true.

[–] tomenzgg@midwest.social 25 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Most clips from Starship Troopers on YouTube have filled comments' sections with people waxing about how based the society is and it's actually a utopia (to your point).

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[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (12 children)

no racism (no blacks, Asians, jews)

[–] plyth@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago

The wife in the intro below is black.

Coincidentally, that is the cure for Racism that racists prescribe too. Huh, neat.

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[–] archonet@lemy.lol 61 points 2 days ago (5 children)

"amazing quality of life"

Sure, if you're the right kind of super citizen.

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[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 49 points 2 days ago

This post is approved by the ministry of truth

[–] traxex@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Big “The Imperium of Man are actually the good guys” energy.

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