this post was submitted on 29 Mar 2026
522 points (98.9% liked)
Technology
84646 readers
4308 users here now
This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.
Our Rules
- Follow the lemmy.world rules.
- Only tech related news or articles.
- Be excellent to each other!
- Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
- Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
- Politics threads may be removed.
- No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
- Only approved bots from the list below, this includes using AI responses and summaries. To ask if your bot can be added please contact a mod.
- Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
- Accounts 7 days and younger will have their posts automatically removed.
Approved Bots
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
This is interesting.
Following that link:
So that's what this is about.
Trump has been debanked since the late 90s by almost all US banks, because when you bankrupt two casinos and frequently spend time with mobsters they considered loans to you "high risk" for some reason.
He's been getting loans via Europe (mostly Deutschbank.. which is also Putin's bank of choice), and Russia, for 30 years.
That is, until he won the lottery by convincing the stupidest people alive to vote him into the highest seat of power.
So now it's payback time against all the banks he thinks wronged him.
Not giving loans doesn't mean debanked.
Actually, for the wealthy it does.
Trump has been very wealthy since birth. The wealthy do not have bank accounts like your average wageslave like me, where their salary gets deposited regularly and they earn interest and make withdrawls - and perhaps have an attached home loan account, etc. We earn interest in high income accounts or term deposits and then pay tax on that earning - like suckers.
The wealthy use an entirely different model that focuses on using debt as its main tool.
Their assets including real estate, share portfolios, stock options and even expensive artwork are 'good debt', they perhaps don't own them fully (they may be mortgaged, loan-backed or options, etc) but they're assets that continue to grow in value over the medium term. If they sell them or divest them for real cash it becomes income that they must pay tax on. The wealthy hate paying tax. Solution: use the assets as collateral for loans and credit lines. This is how Trump lives like a king while (previously) not having much liquid cash, and also how Elon and most ultrawealthg do it - their entire personal spending is on credit accounts - debt - and by writing as much of it off as businesses expenses (meals, travel, security, etc) it all becomes tax deductable as well.
This is the same reason a lot of business executives request most of their payment packages as stock or options - it reduces their taxable income and builds their real wealth substantially. If they want a property: mortgage against their stock & option collateral. If they need money: bank credit line with their assets as collateral.
So when banks say to a member of the 1% such as Trump "we cannot give you a loan account, your collateral/outstanding loans at other fiancial institutions/criminal associates/track record is too risky for us", that means he cannot use that bank and must look elsewhere. He is debanked by them for his purposes.
They can use loans yes, but it's still not what debanking means.
Btw executives get stock options because the board of directors think that gives them incentive to get the stock price up. And deferred taxes yes.
You're being pedantic.
There are multiple types of de-banking. One explicitly applie:
"Debanking refers to the practice by financial institutions of declining or limiting financial services to businesses across whole sectors if they are assessed as having a higher money laundering and terrorism financing (ML/TF) risk."
No I'm really not.
Billionaires are not the 1%... they're the 0.1% of the 1%...
I hate that occupy wall street picked such a stupid number to pick fights with. 1% is like a high earning doctor. Well off, but not like wealthy enough to buy votes and sway elections...
Arguing semantics is kinda pointless when the message is that wealth needs to be distributed far better.
Nobody at Occupy was protesting that just the billionaires need to be taxed much more and the ten-millionaires* should stay just as-is.
*The top 1% in the USA have roughly $12 million USD net assets as of 2025. That is far more than they need to live a very comfortable life with many luxuries.
I wonder if Trump knows that?
Doesn't matter, his base will guess what it means and eat it if he complains about it.
For the wealthy at that level it is effectively debanked. If anything it's even more effective then a poor person getting normal debanked.
Nailed it, thanks.
Wait wait wait, but trump (and magats) said everyone at the US 2020 insurrection that the only people there were Fed agent provocateurs and paid Antifa™™ actors.
Well and then Trump pardoned them but that was just forgotten about and definitely unrelated.