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...because VPNs obscure a user’s true location, and because intelligence agencies presume that communications of unknown origin are foreign, Americans may be inadvertently waiving the privacy protections they’re entitled to under the law...

...VPNs might protect you against garden-variety criminals, but the intentional commingling of origin/destination points by VPNs could turn purely domestic communications into “foreign” communications the NSA can legally intercept (and the FBI, somewhat less-legally can dip into at will)...

Certainly the NSA isn’t concerned about “incidental collection.” It’s never been too concerned about its consistent “incidental” collection of US persons’ communications and data in the past and this isn’t going to budge the needle, especially since it means the NSA would have to do more work to filter out domestic communications and the FBI would be less than thrilled with any efforts made to deny it access to communications it doesn’t have the legal right to obtain on its own.

Since the government won’t do this, it’s up to the general public, starting with everyone sharing the contents of this letter with others. VPNs can still offer considerable security benefits. But everyone needs to know that domestic surveillance is one of the possible side effects of utilizing this tech.

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[–] Tharkys@lemmy.wtf 32 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

So, I am a remote worker in Healthcare. Obviously, I need to use a VPN to connect to work to ensure that communication is secure. But because I have a job that requires secure access, I am a suspected domestic terrorist?

[–] Psiczar@aussie.zone 19 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

No, because there are different types of vpn connectivity.

A point to point vpn is what employees use to connect to the office. The intention is to encrypt the connection so a 3rd party can’t access ithe data going through it. The FBI/NSA won’t care about this type of vpn because your work knows who you are and logs all traffic generated by you which could be subpoenaed by the government.

Connecting to a vpn server in another country to then access the internet hides your original ip address, gets around geo-location blocks and the traffic is typically not logged by the vpn provider. This is the type of vpn governments don’t like.

[–] Bad_Ideas_In_Bulk@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I think it's somewhat naive to assume anything isn't being spied on by the NSA. They don't have a history of being picky.

[–] Psiczar@aussie.zone 1 points 4 hours ago

Of course. I’m sure they are making use of plenty of bugs found in firewall software to access and monitor business traffic, but they can subpoena those logs at any time. It’s the private vpn clients where logs aren’t kept that they are most concerned about, hence why I was outlining the difference.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip -1 points 10 hours ago