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[–] Sunny@slrpnk.net 44 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Indeed... As far as I know at least the Thunderbird donations are not going towards this, its Mozilla funded. I just cannot see that anyone asked or needed this, such a waste of time that should have gonw towards Thunderbird.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 24 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

If anybody needs to know: this is why you should not not donate to the Mozilla Foundation. No money goes towards Firefox or Thunderbird through it!

The products I care about:

  • Firefox is funded by Google
  • Thunderbird is funded by donations

The groups I don't:

  • "Thunderbolt is funded through a dedicated investment from Mozilla",
  • ...and Mozilla is funded by separate donations too.
[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 14 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Keep in mind that that there is a strong likelihood that XLE is a demagogue and is dedicated to shitting up any mozilla/Firefox/TB thread with lies and gross exaggerations that function as lies. XLE almost certainly does not use Firefox or Thunderbird (it wouldn't make sense considering their posting history).

XLE claimed that "Firefox is bursting at the seams with ads." This is clearly not true.

As an example they cited "sponsored search suggestions", which to my mind isn't a big deal and can easily be disabled. For the sake of transparency, I will note that I've never got them and it seems I can't enable them even if I wanted to (likely due to my region?)

XLE also claimed that the on-hover sponsorship notice for the Firefox weather widget as an example of "Firefox bursting at the seam with ads." I haven't used the default new tab page in a decade plus, so maybe this impacts how I see things. From my perspective, an on-hover sponsorship notice for optional widgets is a misleading example for their claims.

You can make up your own mind and read our conversation here: https://piefed.social/comment/10831188

P.S. I am not saying you shouldn't cancel your donation. I've donated to Mozilla Foundation before and cancelled, so I would be a hypocrite for defending donations to MF.

I also have a more hard-line position on MF; they've turned into a shitty, corrupt American tech company imitation. All open source foundations based in the US are suspect by definition (including Linux foundation, Debian foundation etc.) as US society is in a state where it is extremely unlikely that crime and corruption will be addressed in the next 20 years (I've lived in the US for several years, as well as other countries across NA, Europe and Asia).

But that doesn't mean you should trust an individual like XLE, who muddies the water with bombastic BS, while at the same time defending Brave; an American criminal gang that was caught re-writing referral URLs for their own financial benefit.

[–] Stiggyman@ani.social 2 points 3 hours ago

Honestly it's been what.. 8? Years since chrome could play HDR..

Firefox

Just make it work already.. it kinda does on Linux if you enable experimental features just..do it

[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 hours ago

Money is fungible. Donating frees up money that would have gone elsewhere to go to this.