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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I was just double checking. Most convictions that carry a sex offender label are actually serious, but most is not all.

DUI can also mean being completely sober and not driving a vheicle.

And what am I "suggesting"??

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social -2 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I am always fascinated by people who put a lot of energy into pretending that sex crimes aren't a big deal and that a lot of registered sex offenders really didn't do anything.

It is objectively untrue, and any amount of research will demonstrate that.

So what is the deal? Why are doing it?

[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There are still thousands of people who are sex offenders for merely urinating in public. Try telling them their lives are just statistical noise.

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"A final issue worth noting with these realities may well encompass sex offenders who are not violent predators, pedophiles, or rapists, yet still are required to register. This includes individuals who “moon” people, people arrested for urinating in public, and gay and bisexual men convicted of cruising parking lots for sexual partners in public places (Jones 1999)." https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7649057/#CR33

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

And you believe that this supports your statement that there are

"l thousands of people who are sex offenders for merely urinating in public"

?

[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes. If there's 850,000 on the sex offender registry, a 1% "false positive" rate is almost certainly undercounting it, especially with the way our criminal justice system works. Do the vast majority 95%+ belong there, yes I believe that. But even a 1% rate leads to thousands of people being on the list unnecessarily.

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And your "1% of people on the sex offender register are not actually guilty" number comes from...?

[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

First of all, dont quote me and rewrite my words. I never said "not actually guilty." If you want to argue with yourself you dont need to reply to me to do that.

http://usclaims.com/educational-resources/how-many-people-are-wrongfully-convicted/?amp

And where does your 99%+ conviction accuracy rate come from?

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Strange, I thought we were talking about registered sex offenders. Did you forget or just realize that you pulled that number directly from your ass?

If you want to make rules for this discussion, how about we start with you agreeing to stop making shit up?

[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, registered sex offenders are a subset of the people convicted of crimes. What's strange about that?

And what did I make up? I gave you sources for everything I claimed to you. Do you have anything to back up your claims here?

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

You claim there are THOUSANDS of not-really-sex offenders that are registered sex offenders. Why you are so interested in propagating that myth, I can only guess, but you have not actually provided a single source that actually says that.

[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

And you claim there aren't, but i showed you some sources to back up my logic, and you haven't shown me anything so what am I supposed to take away from your replies?

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Ok. How about this. Since its really hard to prove a negative, how about we lower the bar for you to make this REALLY easy. Post 5 cases of a person whose ONLY offense was public urination that resulted in them being put on the sex offender registry. That is it. I don't need you to prove that there are THOUSANDS. Just give me FIVE. that should be easy since there ARE thousands of registered sex offenders out there and if this happens THOUSANDS of times then it should be real easy to tease out a couple real world examples. Go for it.

That is it. Show me just FIVE cases out of the literally millions of people that have been put on the sex offender registry and I will concede that it could indeed be THOUSANDS.

If you cannot find even FIVE people this has actually happened to, then you have to concede that it is a made up bullshit argument.

How about that?

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I did not fucking say any of that. I said the opposite.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago

I hope it's just contrarianism stretched to its breaking point.