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[–] unitedwithme@lemmy.today 44 points 2 hours ago (4 children)

Well, Davies has a point, communicating scale is the difficult part.

So, for those familiar with computers, think Scott this:

A typical Word doc or PDF is several hundred KB's (kilobyte =1000 bytes) to 1MB (Megabyte 1m bytes) a jpg picture your phone takes, is 3-4MB. A full HD movie streamed online will be about 9GB (Gigabyte =1b bytes) of data. Obviously a movie is thousands of "images" stitched together so is file size with be significantly more. The same goes for that energy usage.

Similarly, Homes are measured in kW usage (technically usage per hour or kWh) on a monthly basis. You might use ~800-1,000kWh per month, maybe 10,000-11,000kWh a year. But let's call it 1000kW are used, so 1mW or 1 megawatt. This data center would need at least 9,000x more energy per month as it's gW scale, not mW or even kW... Plus, its power plant will be close by, so you're creating heat and pollution to make the 9+gW energy and then USING up that energy and dumping 8+gW of heat, so his example calculated 16gW of heat being generated... That's the equivalent of a good 16k homes, or ~60,000 people use.

THE KICKER that's just to run the data center, think of the demand for the HVAC and ecological damage to using a lake's water to cool equipment (water would be coming out over 100⁰F)..

Fuck AI!

[–] davad@lemmy.world 2 points 14 minutes ago

One small correction. You switched units. You started with Watt-hours (kWh, energy) and then switched to Watts (GW, power). With the right units, it's even more dramatic.

There are an average of about 730 hours in a month. If a home consumes 1000 kWh per month, that's an average of 1.3 kW. If we divide 9 GW by 1.3kW, we get 6.9 million.

So this data center will use the same amount of energy as over 6 million homes. For reference, Utah has a population of 3.5 million (total people, not total number of homes).


Here's another way of comparing the numbers. If this new data center uses 9 GW of power 24/7, that's an about 6,500 GWh per month, or a little under 79,000 GWh per year.

In 2025, Utah produced a new record of over 35,000 GWh.

So this data center would more than triple the amount of energy produced in 2025.

[–] miraclerandy@lemmy.world 30 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Also, the lake they’re using to cool the data center is in critical condition for drying out. The great salt lake is at a tipping point where if they can’t maintain the current levels it could turn into a toxic dust bowl effect where all the toxic shit that’s collected in the dead lake for millennia will end up in the air in the valley.

[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 16 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Which is really weird. The world desperately needs desalination for freshwater but we say we can't do it because the water is too expensive, yet here is another case where we piss away heat. Free market fundamentalism will be the death of us all. No civilization this reckless was meant to survive.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 hour ago

Just a quick correction, its M capital for Mega, m is for milli.

And Giga is also G capital, not sure there is a low case g for engineer notation.

[–] TheVoiceOfRaison@thelemmy.club 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] mokey@therock.fraggle-rock.org 3 points 38 minutes ago

It is fun. Bit per second, byte per second, makes a huge difference.