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[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

There is nuance, but some companies are far past that. Meta is one of them. Theres a bunch of other examples. I dont think walmart employees are morally bankrupt, however, because the Walton's are. There has to be a line somewhere and some companies have caused too much harm on too large a scale.

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

There is nuance, but some companies are far past that.

The nuance isn't about the fucked-upness of the company, but about the humans. The company is beyond redemption, no doubt.

There has to be a line somewhere

Why? Why should we decide a point at which it's okay to dehumanise people? What do we gain by simplifying economic and social complexities down to "they're all just evil"?

Again, I care about fixing the system that allows things like Meta to exist (because cutting one head won't kill the hydra) and trap employees (Meta and elsewhere) in fucked up dynamics where "just leave" isn't a viable option.

If your necessities are taken care of either way and the choice is purely between excess wealth and ethical responsibility, sure, anyone who chooses to enrich themselves at the expense of others is a dick. If the company is torn down and they lose their job, no tear will be shed. But that basic security needs to exist in order to enable ethical decisions and put the onus on the employees for continuing to support a fucked up stain on human dignity.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Well evil is a ridiculous word, but yes they are immoral people the way I see it. That doesn't mean I want them executed or put in prison. We should simply call something wrong when we think its wrong. Those people are hopefully going to grow and learn. I'm not going to give them praise or any social benefit until they do so, however.

All I'm doing is signalling that I disagree with those peoples life choices on a moral level. I don't see why that's such a cruel thing.

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 1 points 9 minutes ago

I disagree with those peoples life choices on a moral level.

My point is that not all may have a choice, because quitting your job can be scary in the most stable of times, let alone when people are being laid off left and right while small businesses get churned under. "I want to afford life" is a life choice only in the immediate, literal sense of choosing to live.

Hence my proposition to build a system that allows them to quit without jeopardising healthcare coverage, livelihood, all the things that make a person stick with a bad job.

Whoever stays when they don't need to is definitely in the wrong.