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Even though it's renewable energy, it still generates a significant amount of heat.
Can we try cutting down on computing resources wherever possible first?
Not to mention the devastating environmental impact it could have on the marine ecosystem surrounding it.
Can we try cutting down on Peter Thiels?
Yeah seriously, if we could start making software more efficient rather than throwing more hardware at it, we'd be in a much better position environmentally and economically.
Imagine only one thing: the web of the 90s/00s with today's hardware and bandwidth.
A wet dream. But actually I loaded some pages faster with a 14k4 baud modem than some pages with 5Gbit today. With 47228 frameworks and captchas and ....
With every iteration of higher power, programs went shittier, more clogged and devs grew lazy.
Abstraction layers will be the death of us.
Efficiency is a big deal in datacenters. Aside from the AI bubble, companies actually don't like lighting money on fire. More efficient hardware saves them lots of money; less hardware, less power, less datacenter space, less maintenance, fewer support contracts, fewer software licenses, etc etc.
While the current splashy "state of the art" models in terms of cognitive ability are American, IMO the real foundation for future AI is coming out of China these days. It's not quite as smart but they're focusing heavily on making AI training and inference cheaper in terms of compute (and therefore more efficient in terms of energy usage). It's a mother-of-invention situation, sure - they've been cut off from the latest and greatest NVIDIA cards so they're having to find ways to make do with less powerful hardware. But that's going to be super important once AI is "good enough" for various real world tasks and the most powerful models aren't needed for most activities.
That's not what I said. We're using those hardware efficiency gains to offset the performance losses of additional abstraction layers. If we were to make the software more efficient, the hardware efficiency gains would actually be noticeable and we wouldn't be wasting nearly as much energy overall.
This is all ai compute. Yes modern software is bloated but ai inference currently kind of has to run on gpus.
From a physics standpoint, would the energy from the waves eventually turn to heat anyway through friction and waves crashing onshore? Law of conservation of energy and such? If we're getting the energy from the ocean and venting it back into the ocean....?
Indeed, it's basic thermodynamics. The energy coming in to Earth gets turned into heat one way or another, the only question is where that heat goes. In this case it goes into the ocean either way.