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[–] amelia@feddit.org 243 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

This further illustrates how absolutely crazy it is to produce these devices for a single use and then just throw them away, not even making sure they can be recycled properly. It's complete madness. I hope they'll be banned soon, I think the EU is working on it.

[–] terranoid@lemmy.cafe 82 points 1 week ago (3 children)

They should absolutely ban disposable but as long as they're smart about it and don't try and make it a general vape ban. Anything with a microcontroller and OLED display should need regulation to be "disposable". So fucking wasteful.

Vapes can and have always been something you can pop a battery and cartridge and custom juice in. There's zero reason to make it disposable. Make the coil/cotton/juice cartridge disposable... Like a juul was last I checked? That's reasonable.

And then next regulate how much nicotine can be in per ml. 60mg/ml is fucking insane. That is heart issue level of nicotine. I got buzzed off 12 mg/ml, used 3 or 6mg/ml regularly, and quit at 1.5mg/ml. There's no fucking reason other than harm and addiction to provide 60mg/ml.

[–] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

OLED maybe but small micros are now so cheap and so small that they're negligible.

Battery is probably still the biggest environmental impact.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

One of those 3 cent one time programmable microcontrollers would be sufficient. Something with enough power to run a web server is just wasteful.

[–] bacon_pdp@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You do realize that a 1 cent microcontroller has enough RAM, Flash and processing power to be a web server, correct?

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And the term web server doesn't mean it has to run the whole of AWS. It just means it can deliver some content over http.

[–] Dultas@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Yeah, I doubt it's running more than a couple concurrent connections. Idle web servers take very little resources.

[–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

Getting ever closer to smart dust.

[–] Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Germany only allows 20mg/ml, I didn't know there were countries that allowed 60??? 😭

[–] Anivia@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago

Du kriegst auch in Deutschland sehr leicht Vapes mit mehr als 20mg/ml, sind nur eben illegal. Der Schwarzmarkt für Vapes ist groß

[–] michael_palmer@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 week ago

don't try and make it a general vape ban. In some EU contries 10ml liquid costs more than pack of cigarettes, so they defacto banned vaping. how much nicotine can be in per ml. 60mg/ml 20 mg/ml is EU wide limit since 2025

[–] michael_palmer@lemmy.sdf.org 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2023/07/10/council-adopts-new-regulation-on-batteries-and-waste-batteries/

The regulation provides that by 2027 portable batteries incorporated into appliances should be removable and replaceable by the end-user

Coming soon...

[–] Dremor@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Disposable vapes are already forbidden, at least in France, idk if it is union wide.

But yeah, those things make no sense. The only thing with a battery that should be disposable would be fire alarm. Not because of the battery, but because the main sensor has a 10 years lifespan due to its natural deterioration.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I feel the same way about earpods.

[–] abfarid@startrek.website 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Compared to a vape pen AirPods have insane life span. It's still bad, but not even in the same ballpark as something you usually throw away in a week or so.

[–] cookiecoookie@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

That's fine for airpods but as someone who worked retail, there's just as many $15 earbuds that break near instantly that have to be thrown away and never fixed. Those things have 3 batteries in them.

[–] LlilL@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

You can also have your dying AirPods replaced at the battery rate of $40 too. Still doesn’t strike the overall problem, especially since Apple doesn’t advertise that replacement.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

yeah, no one ever loses an airpod...

oh wait

[–] abfarid@startrek.website 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not sure what you mean. Are you implying that because on occasion some people will lose an AirPod they are somehow worse than vape pods that are designed to be disposed of within days after first use?

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

people who like the concept don't give a fuck about the environment, it's just convenient for them so fuck it.

I'm sure you'll justify it for yourself lol.

you don't need them, you just like them, and don't care that it's created an entire new class of ewaste.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

People lose phones more often, huge source of e-waste that we should ban first. In fact most people wouldn't even have a reason to buy the earbuds if they didn't have a phone in the first place.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

People lose phones more often

something tells me they don't just evaporate, never to be used used again, but resold.

hard to resell a single earbud.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You would be surprised how many go unfound until damaged. Let's just ban it all, better to be safe than sorry. Plus it would really help with your ear bud ban.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago

No, I wouldn't.

It's all garbage, including your take here.