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[–] beep@piefed.world 51 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Nora@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

Huh til. Never heard this before. Gotta be honest tho I'm kinda surprised its a slur, don't get me wrong I won't be using it, but it does feel like a "good" shorthand for Pakistani.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 8 hours ago

Racism has different manifestations in different places.

It kind of shows how stupid it all is.

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 21 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Seriously, I've heard people say "Pakis" as a short for Pakistani in a non-insulting way, similar to Spaniards or Aussies.

[–] Nora@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 10 hours ago

Funny enough it actually mentions in the Wikipedia article that most Americans are unfamiliar with the slur. I'll be honest without this thread if I heard someone say it, I would probably have used it unknowingly just assuming it was similar to Aussie or something.

This is not to make light of the slur, but if someone called me an "Ameri" I would probably just assume they're French, which might be meaner than anything they're trying to say to me.

[–] KingKong33@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Is Spaniard not the correct term?

[–] turdburglar@piefed.social 5 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

the one person from spain that i knew told me not to use it. she said it was like using ‘chinaman’

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 11 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

“Spaniard” is the preferred and most-official demonym. IDK what she was on about.

[–] turdburglar@piefed.social 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

um, being from spain.

where you from internet stranger?

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 11 points 8 hours ago

Canada originally, but I worked in Caceres and then Madrid for almost 15 years.

[–] Nora@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

NGL I sat here for like 40 seconds wondering what you call people from Spain before remembering that Spanish can refer to both language and people.

[–] Zagorath@quokk.au 2 points 58 minutes ago

The bigger issue is that Spanish is an adjective, and we're looking for nouns. You can say "an Aussie" or "a Spaniard". You can't say "a Spanish".

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I’ve heard people say “Pakis” as a short for Pakistani in a non-insulting way

Non-insulting according to whom? Some people are so ingrained to racism that they don't even sound racist. It's like old people who say "negro" but don't mean to offend. They're just unconsciously recycling the racism in which they were indoctrinated.

[–] Nora@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 7 hours ago

As discussed in this thread, America doesnt really have the same historical racist context. I would not be shocked if Pakistani people here were okay with it because the context is different or i would not be shocked if American Pakistanis also didn't know. This is not a defense of the word, I will not (and really have never used it) just idly noting that context is very important.

[–] tleb@lemmy.ca 8 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Here in Canada in the 00s I remember it being a really bad slur. I haven't really heard it used at all since then though

[–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 11 points 9 hours ago

Which is hilarious, because in new England a "packy" is a package store, which is a euphemism for a liquor store.

So I got quite a few looks when I asked if we were going to "hit the packy" on the way to the party....

[–] bryndos@fedia.io 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Very much not good in England. You might well think England did enough to fuck up that part of the world in '47. But no we still have to be a bucket load of racist cunts.

[–] Nora@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Its actually mildly interesting, are there other slurs that really wouldn't be slurs in another country? The F slur would be one I suppose is just a cigarette for some people?

[–] atomicorange@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Cunt is a really nasty misogynist slur in the USA and a friendly mild ribbing in the UK and Australia.

[–] Nora@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 hours ago

Oh yes! This is another one good shout out!

[–] bryndos@fedia.io 4 points 10 hours ago (5 children)

Yeah "fag" is fine in context such as: "I'm just nipping out for a fag" "Can I bum a fag?"

But you can't say it to, or about, a person, well, unless you're a homophobe.

'faggot' is almost always a slur though, you'd better be in that rare circumstance where you're very clearly referring to a bundle of sticks otherwise, no.

I guess 'nip' is also occasionally a racist slur for Japanese, but normally quite innocent; just something quick. or a pinch, or a wee dram.

Vaguely related, you might be interested in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polari. A few British slang terms migrated out of queer-creoles into more mainstream usage , possibly via popular radio and tv.

[–] Monument@piefed.world 1 points 5 hours ago

A British comedian friend living in the U.S. used to (15-ish years ago) have a joke about asking a guy outside a bar in middle America if he could bum a fag.
He would impersonate the most southern accent he could muster and say “I don’t care. Ain’t no business of mine.” As part of a joke about cultural differences/how the U.S. could be unexpectedly wholesome.

Never asked if that was a true story. We fell out awhile ago.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

Fancy a fag?

What? You're a fag!

No mate. Fag means cigerette.

You're a cigerette!

[–] stsquad@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 hours ago

"Just going to pop outside to smoke a removed" would not raise eyebrows in the UK.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 1 points 8 hours ago

Nothing wrong with a good helping of faggots.

[–] Nora@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

oh yes I will be looking at that, thanks!

edit: Another one (please someone correct any parts of this that are wrong). I believe in Korean "you" or some other way of addressing people sounds quite similar to the n-word.

quick edit 2: though I guess different languages don't really count in quite the same way, its similar though.