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[–] Jiral@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

It seems your beef is with democracy itself rather than the EU. Which party publishes an exhaustive detailed list of all coming laws with specific outlines for the coming legislative period, and of course predicting future coalition negotiations. You don't see that your requirements are completely unworkable in reality, not just in the EU, anywhere, are you?

Party programs are simplifications out of necessity and they focus on specific topics, depending on the party. That focus itself is a strong reason why to vote for them. Those few Euros of tariffs on orders from China was indeed not a big topic. Immigration, Russia, defense and Integration were big topics, understandably.

3 EUR is not cutting off anyone from anything, especially as that is barely compensating the dumping prices on shipping. Or do you believe that 0 EUR shipping on a 2 EUR order is covering the actual shipping costs? Like I said, that shipping dumping is possible because of anachronistic international agreements that were never intended for what they are used now.

I know some don't care at all about the environment or costs to society. That avalanche of tiny packages is a huge strain on our infrastructure and driven by unsustainably low shipping rates. That legislation will have a positive effect by incentivicing more consolidated ordering and shipping at prices closer to real costs.

Like I said, I am ordering myself in China and I support that. Chinese platforms will adopt fast when it is about money. So the positive effects will be seen soon. Maybe you don't think as far but that shipping dumping is paid largely by us. At least everyone who is still ordering stuff also within the EU or paying taxes here for infrastructure.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 52 minutes ago* (last edited 43 minutes ago) (1 children)

Most country specific/regional programs are far more exhaustive and concrete than european election programa. Just read them.

Lack of accountability by the chambers and the commission lead to lack of democracy in the european institution, it's just what's happening.

They don't get audited like national parliaments are, but they have greater power, that's just wrong.

I don't know where you live but 3 euros tariff for a 1€ item is killing a business. Trump did it and the european union, after criticize it, just did the same. Bad when trump did it and bad they europe did it.

European Union way to save the"environment": kill europeans by taxes, expect the environment heals somehow because of that. How me making some european dude richer for buying the same product saves the environment? It doesn't. It's like aerolines green offset pay. You pay more and somehow the things are "greener". It's just a scam for people to get rich put of people lack of knowledge and social consciousness.

If packet delivery is a problem then automatize it. Delivery drones, automatic pick up boxes. But no, better put a tax on it and be done. No way the european union is falling behind.

[–] Jiral@lemmy.world 1 points 10 minutes ago

It is madness to ship a 1 EUR on its own across the globe. This creates costs way bigger than 3 EUR which pthers will pay via subsidising that shipping at dumping prices. That you think this is a viable thing that people should be entitled to just shows that we actually need that small tariff.

The main benefit is that it removes the perverse incentive to break up orders in a log if small parts under 150 EUR instead of people trying to order stuff at once. This is part of the reason why shipping is drowning in tiny shipments, a horrendously inefficient thing, even with modern technology. Automstisation doesn't resolve the issue that treaties require the shipping forward at absurdly low rates.

Talk about drones to blacken the sky for 1 EUR deliveries of stuff that goes directly to the trash is nonsensical populism. I am glad that people calling for that don't call the shots.

The egoism of some people is simply breathtaking. Chinese companies will quickly adapt by increasing shipping sizes to minimise fees, and this will achieve exactly what the aim is here, a much more efficient way of getting products to Europe. Possibly that will also include a strengthening of their logistics basis in Europe, something that will benefit also consumers directly.