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Apple being Apple again. Just why does anyone actually like that company?

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[–] tigerjerusalem@lemmy.world 164 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Man, they're seething against the EU, totally pissed that the legislators worked against their abuse over developers and rubbed against their cash cow.

Apple is all about money and fucking the user, being no different from Meta or Google. All they have is shinier hardware.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 70 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Much worse than Google IMO, at least when it comes to fucking with rules made by EU. Google usually tries to appeal legally and if it doesn't work out, they do what they must. This Apple bulshittery with 3rd party app stores is a new one. Someone here in this thread said that the worst EU can do to companies breaking DMA is forcing them to sell the division. I would love for Apple to push EU that far.

[–] menemen@lemmy.world 38 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Companies working against technical standards are basically working against society. And no one fights standards quite like Apple.

[–] tigerjerusalem@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

But but but muh innovation! Standards ruin that! /s

[–] brlemworld@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I'd argue they have better hardware. I'd love to have an iPhone running stock Android.

[–] olutukko@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I mean the og comment literally said "all they have is shinier hardware"

[–] Lesrid@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago

Just read it wrong since Google was mentioned right before the start of the final sentence

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 13 points 9 months ago

Costs a fortune, hard to repair, no SD slot, no headphone jack, until recently could not be used with the chargers you have for everything else... At least for me it is a "no".

[–] itsJoelle@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

That would be the dream :)

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 3 points 9 months ago

Apple is scary because they succeeded at creating a sect by frontal assault, so to say.

Google did that very subtly and precisely in the 00s, and like a decade ago firmly diverted to the MS way.

MS didn't go in the cult direction, they slowly and steadily capitalized on their monopolistic power with moderation and modesty.

While Apple almost from the beginning just shat on everybody and everybody asked for more. They even took the counterculture niche partially in the 90s and 00s. And for clueless people it's still them.

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What about privacy though? Google runs an ad network, so clearly they have financial incentive to spy hard.

[–] tigerjerusalem@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

So does Apple, the difference being they grabbed it all to themselves. This is why they have "no tracking" options, to seal competition off while selling themselves as the privacy champions and also selling their in house ad solution. That and the fact that they worked with the government behind users back, and having a shoddy work to secure their OS.

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-56995192

https://www.vox.com/recode/23045136/apple-app-tracking-transparency-privacy-ads

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/12/apple-admits-to-secretly-giving-governments-push-notification-data/

https://arstechnica.com/security/2023/10/iphone-privacy-feature-hiding-wi-fi-macs-has-failed-to-work-for-3-years/

https://arstechnica.com/security/2024/01/hackers-can-id-unique-apple-airdrop-users-chinese-authorities-claim-to-do-just-that/

Apple is not any better than Meta, they just lie better.