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[–] olutukko@lemmy.world 34 points 9 months ago (3 children)

This is a prime example how mind altering substances are a bit double edged sword.

They will get results but towards the goal you've set. If you want to do some self exploration and learn about yourself, sure it will most often help in a way or another. If you on the otherhand want to brainwash yourself with dumb conspiracy theories then it will most likely help with that too, especially if you do them too often.

A friend of mine has absolutely fried his brains with ketamine and he believes to the weirdest shit and basically think that the universe has intended him to be untouchable and no bad can happen to him. I for the other hand just learned a lot about my behaviour patterns with ketamine and came out with clearer mind about my life and goals.

[–] Trae@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This honestly could explain why Tom Segura is going fucking brain dead by trying to kill his own career while screaming at old ladies in air ports and hating his fans that elevated him from upper middle class to a multimillionaire.

He's explained multiple times back before he lost weight and started hating that he's in a relationship and has kids with a woman he hates that he did so much ketamine that he had to be resuscitated.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

It's funny that I have no idea who this person is. I like intentionally not knowing who these people are, especially when they try so hard to get attention.

[–] lemmeee@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you want to do some self exploration and learn about yourself, sure it will most often help in a way or another.

I don't doubt that, but I'm sure there are better, healthier ways of doing that. Like talking to a therapist.

[–] olutukko@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Sure but psychedelics and ketamine have shown extremely good results in therapy but it's hard or impossible to get to those in many places. Normal therapy can go on for very long time before good results and it can be very expensive. I personally got my depression cured pretty much overnight with lsd.

Of course there are always risks assosiated and people should always test their drugs and research the topic properly before using but ketamine and classical psychedelics are physically really safe. Ketamine has been long used for anesthesia and it's considered very safe. Psychedelics don't also really do any physical harm to you.

Edit: of course they are still not some magic compound that makes everything go away. It can give the necessary kickstart or help solve some trauma but if you have bad lifestyle choices that lead to the depressiom in the first place it's going to easily just come back if you don't make proper changes to your life

[–] lemmeee@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I've seen many miraculous claims about them (quick and easy solutions to complicated problems), but if they were so good, I assume the majority of psychiatrists would adopt them as one of the standard methods of treatment. It's great that it worked for you, but there is a reason why rigorous testing is done in science. I think it might be dangerous for people to do this on their own, since they are not experts in this field. I suspect that there might be a few experts who believe that psychedelics are a good method of treatment, but a small fraction is not enough. Sometimes there are bad scientists in every field and we can't just cherry pick the ones we agree with (I'm not accusing you of that, just saying that people do that). I would like to know the truth, though. This is a popular topic lately and I'm curious if it's just pseudoscience or maybe there is something that I'm missing.

I think it might be easy to get addicted to any drug and I know of at least one long lasting effect of psychedelics, but this one seems to be very rare.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I have a good friend who is a headache neurologist at a leading US hospital, and about 20% of her patients use ketamine therapy in some capacity. Apparently it is extremely effective at preventing migraines.

[–] lemmeee@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

Oh, that's interesting. I'm reading now that it's also an effective antidepressant, but I'm not sure if it's actually used for that purpose.

[–] And009@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Is ketamine a psychedelic? It's uncommon here so don't know anyone who fried their brain with lucy or shrooms

[–] olutukko@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Nah it's dicossiative