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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 43 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Actually it's just pessimism of the likes of Mercedes-Benz. I'm not going to buy an expensive electrical car in the same way I'm not going to buy an expensive ICE car.

Make cheap electrical cars and we can talk.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Very true. VW had a really cheap one, and it sold out immediately. Still removed it for no reason.

MONEY

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Volvo is bringing a 36k one to market this summer. While that's still very expensive it's less expensive than the average of 50k (45k with rebates) you see from domestic manufacturers.

If they manage to dodge the inevitable court case for selling at a loss and make it stick we should see more stuff like the Chevy Bolt.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

There's a cheat code out there right now: Toyota bz4x. At full price, they're not a very good option. There's plenty with better range and charge time. They also fucked up some of the features, like one pedal driving.

However, first year depreciation is hitting them hard, and then they look much better. So much off that the downsides can be overlooked.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Haha, those things are like 15k off. I wonder what the hell happened there?

[–] frezik@midwest.social 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Bad range, bad charge time, a bunch of little things that aren't up to snuff. Toyota didn't half-ass it as much as the Mazda CX-30 (which should go on the Wikipedia page for "Minimal Effort"), but it's not great.

Once depreciation hits, though, it's suddenly looking good.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

That's just hilarious. Enshittification really is coming for cars.

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

TBF there was a VW Electric Car recall, clearly their models had some liabilities. Hopefully they continue to keep their word and improve to become the top EV brand in the next few years.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They seem like it, saw a video where it beat BMW and Mercedes in efficiency and fast charging.

But to be fair I hate cars like hell. It would be completely fine to have 5% of the cars on our roads, and still be fossile

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 2 points 9 months ago

Yeah, and road expansion needs to stop as well. It's already ridiculous in the USA, it makes communities less walkable.

[–] Railison@aussie.zone 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

How’s BYD going? They seem unstoppable

[–] meat_popsicle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago

Non-existent in the US thanks to whack-ass tariffs unfortunately. We love hindering our adoption of climate change reducing technology for political points.