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No, electric vehicle sales aren’t dropping. Here’s what’s really going on::Tesla has been slashing prices. Ford just cut the price of its Mustang Mach-E, too, plus it cut back production of its electric pickup. And General Motors is thinking about bringing back plug-in hybrids, arguably a step back from EVs.

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[–] tracer_ca@lemmy.ca 68 points 9 months ago (41 children)

I'm in the market for a BEV. Have been for 3 years. The reason I don't have one is:

A. The cars that are large enough for my use case (weekend getaways with kids and or friends) are all super expensive luxury vehicles with poor ratings.

B. Availability. Other than the Mustang Mach-E, nothing is available here (Canada) without a minimum 6 month wait list. (Ioniq 5 is 1 year).

C. Poor reliability and/or features. (See the disaster that is the Chevy Blazer EV).

At this point I'm waiting for the Ioniq 7. Hopefully it will be as well reviewed as it's sister the EV9.

The reason GM and Ford are not selling well is because nobody wants what they're selling. But they're framing it as an general EV issue and not a crap product issue.

The media and those apposed to EVs are buying it of course.

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 3 points 9 months ago (8 children)

Yeah, I want a Mach-E (at least in theory) ... but I want it to have a good 500-600 mile range (or for the charging network to be much bigger than it is)... It's unfortunate really

[–] Fisch@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Is the charging network that bad in the US that you need to get that far without charging?

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

So for me I make a trek to my parents house ~150 miles away a few times a year.

In good weather (and good battery condition), I could maybe skip hitting the chargers all together, or get a little bit of charging at my parents house from a wall outlet.

Unless my parents (or my grandfather that I also visit fairly regularly who lives the same distance in a different direction) installed a better charger at their place... In colder weather (e.g. Christmas), I'd almost definitely need to use a charger while going at least one direction.

The problem is, in both cases, there are like 5-10 charges total (not charging stations, chargers) where as there are like 5-10 gas stations all right next to the interstate each with at least 4 pumps, many with 8+ pumps.

I'm concerned that during peak travel in cold weather (e.g. Christmas time travel), I could easily find myself in a bad situation where I can't get a charger because they're all too far away, broken, or in use. There's just not enough redundancy.

[–] acchariya@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

I'm in the market, and the answer is kinda, for non Teslas. I do a road trip up the east coast a few times a year and the Tesla will reliably add about 4 30 minute stops on each half of the trip. A non Tesla also requires four stops, but they could be anywhere from 20 minutes best case to 1 hr plus, depending on the availability and status of the unreliable chargers.

A lucid with 400 miles of true range would probably cut it down to two stops, but I don't have $140k

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

No, there are very few places like that, and most of the populated places are not at all like that.

I took that to mean “I want to complete my common road trip without charging”

A few weeks ago I did my first road trip requiring charging away from home and it really was painless

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