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I'm done with you. You didn't address or read the parts I wrote which specifically saddle "the owner class" with the core of the responsibility.
They're temporarily banned.
Thanks. They're following me to other communities now. Oh well.
I know I didn't express an easy, or very popular opinion, but I'm no shill. I just believe in owning personal responsibility for what we consume. I never said we, the consumers, were alone, or principly to blame for the state of the world.
For the record, I disagree with you somewhat. I think the plastics industry in particular has had a great deal of success by doing things like convincing consumers that recycling is up to them, instead of rethinking the nature of their products. Did you know that a lot of the anti-littering campaigns from the 1970's onward were bankrolled by the plastics industry? It was an effort to offload the responsibility to care about the environment onto consumers.
That said, this can be discussed civilly. The person who was arguing with you wouldn't do that, though.
Yes! That exact type of bankrolling is part of the "real" problem: actions by corps and govs to ambiguate the issue.
But most people don't think twice when they go into a store, get a plastic drink, then throw the bottle in the regular trash, or even litter. They should acknowledge their use of that onetime bottle is their responsibility.
I guess I take issue with folks posturing like the only needed action is systemic change, when personal change can start right now. ( Don't litter, find a reusable bottle, etc)
Anyway you didn't come here to continue this with me lol. Thanks for being legit