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You are always welcome to change that.
I am trying to make it more balanced. In an ideal world I would like it to be here: https://img.gvid.tv/i/4EhvD43g.png
But like I said elsewhere I'm not in the market of controlling what other people think so I'm going to let people who decide they want to influence what the site becomes do exactly that. Influence it. Anyone can.
I think this is one of the benefits of positional posts. On every site it seems that there has to be a conflict over who occupies it in exclusion to others. But what if these people just interacted less? What if people who want to see only posts like their way of thinking could get exactly that. And people who want to see an uncurrated representation of all thought could see that. That's the benefit of positional posts plus letting people weigh the factors of the algorithm themselves.
Maybe small free speech sites always end up dominated by the wrong people because the right people give up too easily. The problem is it relegates every small project to being one thing no matter how unique a project is or what kind of cool potential it has unless that project engages in the same kind of control that made us hate reddit. All because one side wants to fight to promote their ideas and another side just wants to be comfortable.
Any possible interest I had just evaporated with this response. Why would I share a space with bigots and fascists when I could just choose not to do that?
my interest just went up when I know one less virtue signaler doesn't want to be there!
Have fun!
You are running the place, who else is going to keep them from taking over? People who are not invested will just go somewhere else where the moderation takes care of the terrible people.
What's going to stop you from taking over? It's a completely symmetric situation until you decide the world shouldn't be defined by effort but instead utopia is defined by someone else applying thought control on anyone but you.
BTW pretty much all of those post would be allowed here. So your demand is that free speech sites engage in a level of moderation beyond the site you currently use.
Why would I come clean your house when I could visit a house that's being kept clean?
The benefit for far right assholes is that you don't kick them out. That's why they're there. What's the benefit to me? Why would I show up?
a house where there is one less guest telling the host how to clean the place and who to accept in sounds nice.
You'll love crack houses!
Sane, rational people don't want to take over anything. We just want to vote for reasonable governments, let said government get on with governing and get on with our lives. We don't want to be bombarded with all this political bullshit everywhere we turn - MAGA stickers and Fuck Biden stickers, you can't open any comment thread on any public social media post without some idiot blaming Biden for the most ridiculous things.
Since the growth of the internet and social media these right wing nazi fucktards have figured out they can weaponise their followers to take over anything at any level and with your attitude to this site that's exactly what I predict will happen there.
It’s always portrayed as “thought control” when it’s inconvenient for people to be protected from an onslaught of dangerous, vile hatred. But that’s absolutely, positively, so stupid and dead wrong.
Say your site becomes a haven for paid killers. Will you step in then? Or say it becomes a space for CP. Where does your “make it whatever you want!” schtick cross the line? Content moderation exists for a reason. And that reason is we live online these days. What happens online is happening to real people. And the online life of those people can very quickly turn physically dangerous. Are you pro-dangerous situations for people in the name of “do whatever you want?” I mean, your actions would suggest “yes.”
I get it. You’re a libertarian-leaning person and you believe in a free exchange of ideas. But that’s not all the internet is anymore. If this were a physical community you built and wanted to see flourish, would your beliefs of “everyone do whatever you want, no one here will stop you” still apply? Of course not. Because communities do have people that need to be looked out for. Your site is no different. Being hands off with hatred isn’t admirable, no matter how much the new e-right wingers want to shout it over and over. It creates danger for people and only serves to spread that hatred to larger audiences because it’s being platformed. So you’re not pro-“free speech.” You’re pro hate. And that’s a stance even most right wingers know to outwardly stay away from.
But here’s the kicker: those rich, powerful people promoting that type of unregulated speech are benefitting from that type of hatred spreading. But they can’t say that out loud. You’re doing the same thing without an ulterior motive which is…maybe even worse?