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Here’s how the makers of the “Suyu” Switch emulator plan to avoid getting sued (arstechnica.com)

submitted 8 months ago by nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works to c/games@sh.itjust.works

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[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 31 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Still the same Contributor License Agreement as Yuzu to make proprietary versions. They've learned nothing.

[–] vox@sopuli.xyz 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

well they're not completely proprietary...
ea is just latest master, merged with unspecified list of work-in-progress prs, and built together with custom branding.
there's zero proprietary code in it....
but you don't know what code specifically was used to build it.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

well they’re not completely proprietary…

The point of a CLA is to eventually sell proprietary versions. There is objectively no need for a CLA in a fully FOSS/GPL application because the GPL already clarifies everything that's needed.

Edit: "suyu also needs to be a product. We need to find ways to monetise the project" Direct quote from https://gitlab.com/suyu-emu/suyu/-/wikis/Contributor-License-Agreement-Policy

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

And that's what's gonna fuck them; making money off it. Unless they have enough money to actually go to court and fight Nintendo.

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What if both the new version and old version of the license has something you disagree with in them?

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Then they should have forked different software like Ryujinx.

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

Oh I was thinking it was an original work.

[–] vox@sopuli.xyz 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

well the limitation was against republishing the ea-branded versions. there's nothing stopping you from doing whatever you want with the regular source tree and all the code is there, even if some of it is not merged...

some form of monetization is pretty much required (due to the hardware required to reverse engineer) and I'm really fond of the yuzu's and skyline's "early access" model (since it doesn't actually paywall anything, and keeps the project fully open)

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No CLA is needed to sell open source software. If fact the right to sell is a mandate by both the open source definition and the free software definition.

Also they said no monetisation. That means none at all. Do they want to get sued by Nintendo and pay millions for the rest of their lives?

[–] vox@sopuli.xyz 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

well ryu do monetize their work and haven't been sued... yet.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Suyu claims to do no monetisation to avoid getting sued but explicitly spells out to sell partially proprietary versions.