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[–] OrangeCorvus@lemmy.world 344 points 8 months ago (27 children)

Yeah but Brave? Why not Firefox or Vivaldi.

[–] Norgur@fedia.io 237 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Forgive them. They aren't used to choosing their browser yet.

[–] akilou@sh.itjust.works 80 points 8 months ago (9 children)

They're Apple users. They aren't used to making any decisions when it comes to how their phones work

[–] Nurgle@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I’d defend myself, but I work in digital marketing so I’m not going to dissuade anyone from using AdWords.. I mean Android.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Funny, I see far more ads on iOS than I do Android

[–] akilou@sh.itjust.works 22 points 8 months ago

Don't tell them about all the different ad blockers we can use!

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[–] OrangeCorvus@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Ok you get a free pass, make sure it doesn't happen again :)

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 94 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Well the Brave Twitter account is likely a bit biased toward the Brave browser. 🙂

I'm sure the others were impacted too.

Edit: Firefox installs jumped 50%.

https://www.theverge.com/2024/3/13/24100066/firefox-saw-an-increase-in-users-following-apples-default-browser-changes-in-the-eu

[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 40 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Vivaldi is a proprietary rebranding of Chromium. Can't say I'd recommend it over (or in addition to) Firefox.

We need less forks of Chromium. Any one company (Google in this case) having total control over browser engines is dangerous, and is a big reason why the whole Apple/Safari/Webkit situation is such a big deal to begin with.

[–] Technus@lemmy.zip 33 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Remember kids, if it's Chromium based, it's still part of the problem. The Chromium project only exists to provide the illusion of choice. Don't let Google have the power to dictate web standards at will.

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The worrisome thing is that there's no alternative other than Firefox, or Safari on Apple platforms. Every single other browser is Chromium.

We must defend Firefox at all costs, it's the last glimmer of freedom.

[–] zarenki@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago

Every single other browser is Chromium.

One exception I'm aware of: GNOME Web (aka epiphany-browser) uses WebKitGTK, which is based on Apple's WebKit rather than Google's Chromium/Blink. But it's Linux desktops first and foremost. Not on mobile platforms, not exactly intended for Windows (might be usable with Cygwin/WSL) or macOS (seems to be on MacPorts) either, and even on non-GNOME desktops like KDE it might seem a bit out of place.

I daily drive Firefox but Epiphany is my first choice fallback on the rare occasion I encounter a site that's broken on Firefox.

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[–] topinambour_rex@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago

Firefox +50% in Germany, +30% in France

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Vivaldi is my go to browser. Brave does a better job with blocking ads. I'm switching to Brave whenever I need to stream something on a site loaded with ads, or when YouTube manages to detect my Adblock for a few days.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 8 months ago (7 children)

Not like uBlock Origin is a thing?
Can it really get better than that and consent-o-matic?

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[–] AeroLemming@lemm.ee 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don't like that you can't use the Dark Reader extension on mobile in Vivaldi. I like all of my websites to be dark.

[–] nooneshere@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 8 months ago

I guess it does have a built in dark mode

[–] turkishdelight@lemmy.ml 11 points 8 months ago

Still better than Edge or Chrome

[–] strawberry@kbin.run 7 points 8 months ago

as someone said, its randomised, and I'm sure that other browsers also saw more downloads

[–] RmDebArc_5@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago (12 children)

Vivaldi is extremely slow on IOS and 2gb+ big. Firefox has no extensions so no Adblock. Generally there are few privacy friendly/Foss browsers on IOS.

[–] Muehe@lemmy.ml 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Firefox has no extensions so no Adblock.

That's because so far every browser on iOS had to use WebKit as it's HTML rendering engine, meaning that even if you installed another browser manually you were basically still using Safari under the hood. IIRC the new DMA rules include allowing other browser engines like Gecko, so Mozilla is probably already working on making addons available. I mean they are available on Android, so why wouldn't they make them available on iOS now that they finally can?

[–] RmDebArc_5@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I wouldn’t be sure because of how stupid Apples compliance is. But if they do I would definitely switch. I guess it’s just going to be Firefox focus until then.

[–] herpaderp@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 8 months ago

You can get one but not the other. Orion has been pretty solid for me, has all the lovey iOS integration so the happy chemicals Apple spent R&D on does it’s magic while blocking all sorts of things, but it’s closed source :/

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