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I thought I'd chuck windows on my gaming laptop an Acer nitro 5 from last year, to see how it's going do some bits I can't on Linux VR, certain multiplayer games etc.

What a disaster! I've spent the whole day brute forcing drivers and generally dicking about trying to get my setup sorted.

Upon installation, Wi-Fi drivers don't exist, so you cannot use the internet while installing if you're on Wi-Fi. Mint's had this since what 2006? But that's cool, Cortana is here to chat away and not understand any requests. Once finally in the OS after 20 questions that could be considered harassment if it was a person, nothing was ready to go. Every single driver needed sourcing and installing.

People have the cheek to complain about Linux's Nvidia install, literally two clicks on most distros if it isn't already baked in. Go to website find driver, download click click click agree click wait more software click click wait.

Plug in my sound card OK it's a bit old now UA-25 but nothing happens...hmm find obscure video partially install a driver from Vista then cancel the installation program so you can side load a driver from 8,1 but wait there's more disable core isolation to allow the driver to work reboot into a now slightly more compromised OS.

OK plug in wheel again not new stuff G25 oh it works cool. Oh, no H-shifter OK download driver. "Can't find device, ensure it's plugged in". Windows decided it knew better, downloaded its own driver that blocks the official one and loads a steering wheel as a gamepad..GG cool cool.

I do not understand why we still have this image that Windows is noob friendly, it's such a convoluted obfuscated process to do anything. It does worse than nothing, it thinks it's smart enough to carry out tasks on the user behalf and just bork it.

All of these issues are because I don't have the new shiny things, but it really highlighted why I love Linux now if you'll excuse me I'm going to install a distro and play on my 20-year-old peripherals

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[–] caustictrap@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago (23 children)

Happy to see lemmy linux community not blindly hating windows and providing facts. Also you can use a package manager like choco to install apps from terminal so you dont have deal with clicking next.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 8 points 8 months ago (22 children)

Treating Windows unfairly in these kinds of comparisons is a disservice to Linux as it implies that Linux can't win in a fair comparison.

Windows/Linux/MacOS are all best at different things and for different persons, let the best OS for the task and person win on a fair test

[–] Dumpdog@lemmy.world -4 points 8 months ago (19 children)

Treating Windows unfairly? Blindly hating Windows? Microsoft is a corporation designed to MAKE DOLLAZ SON. They aren't your unfairly treated friend who wants to make sure you have an amazing gaming experience. They are part of a corporate duopoly. Meaning...dun dun dun - One of two shite options. I don't include Linux in this because it is the exact opposite of this market dominance. It is a free market of choice - which you can choose to better by contributing code, monetarily, or promotional support.

Windows is actively user hostile, actively contributing to planned obsolecence, and overall an ad infested spyware pile of bloated inefficient garbage.

As an IT Professional you should have first hand experience of the waste that comes from technological churn.

Linux standing alone on it own merits... Yeah right. Linux standing up against hundreds of millions of dollars spent in PR, Advertising, and the business practice of embrace, extend, and extinguish. You want better shit? Be a part of a community instead of brainlessly buying a solution.

OP - I salute you and your 20 year old peripherals. At least you are creatively making something you have work rather than buying shit that causes more problems.

I will happily shill for the Linux project and any other open source project - for volunteers trying to make something they want to use.

[–] caustictrap@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Most of the people don't think about capitalism when they turn on their pc and start a game. They just play their favourite games like cod and have fun. And windows just works. I use windows 11 and I don't see ads on my pc.

[–] Navigator@jlai.lu 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You are a power user yourself, of course you dont see ads. But most of the people will see ones because they aren't power users.

[–] caustictrap@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Yes that is true. But all i did was uninstall one drive and other microsoft apps i dont use from my pc, i didn't do any reg edits or terminal commands.

[–] Navigator@jlai.lu 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Do you think regular people uninstall apps they do not need?

Specially Microsoft apps, you know you can uninstall them, most people won't remove them by fear of breaking Windows, thinking theses apps are here for a good reason...

[–] caustictrap@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Apps that will break doesn't provide a uninstall option to begin with. For example edge.

[–] Navigator@jlai.lu 3 points 8 months ago

It's not the point.

People see an app marked as Microsoft, they are using Windows by Microsoft so they assume the app is part of the system. Therefore they won't even guess they can uninstall the app to begin with.

[–] Dumpdog@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I would also prefer not to think about capitalism when shooting people in COD (the irony). No one has to think about capitalism but we all feel the effects of capitalism. Were you on Reddit? Why have you migrated to Lemmy? Does this make you think more about the effects of capitalism? I can agree that we all just want to escape into gaming but these things are there whether we choose to look or not. We chose Lemmy so that doing something.

[–] caustictrap@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Linux and jellyfin community is very active in lemmy. Not everyone use lemmy as a reddit alternative. I continue to use reddit.

[–] Dumpdog@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Sorry, I just assumed you migrated. Yeah, communities that are built for the members are great. Reddit was once like that for sure. Maybe a better example would be - where did you migrate from before Jellyfin? Why choose Jellyfin over Netflix or another subscription service? Has capitalism provided a better service that is designed to benefit the user in those cases?

[–] caustictrap@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I am from india. Our film industry is huge, the amount of local movies and tv shows is very hard to manage and watch through multiple streaming services (and this is not including the already popular netflix, prime, disney). I also watch foreign movies and tv shows. It is not that i can't afford, it is the ease of use. I use gamepass and steam and those are all part of capitalism.

[–] Dumpdog@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It is not that i can’t afford, it is the ease of use.

That was my point exactly. I agree with you.

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